Ohio Republicans plan to disregard voters.

[fantome profane]

Ohio GOP lawmakers vow to target state judiciary after passage of Issue 1 abortion measure

A group of four state Republican lawmakers threatened to strip the state judiciary of its jurisdiction to hear cases related to Issue 1, the ballot measure approved by voters Tuesday.

www.cbsnews.com

These elected officials in the "House of Representatives" have no interest in representing their constituents. They want to rule over them.

DECEPTIVE OHIO ISSUE 1 MISLED THE PUBLIC BUT DOESN'T REPEAL OUR LAWS

COLUMBUS, OH - Ohio Legislators will be introducing several bills to address this issue in the coming weeks. “Foreign billionaires don't get to make Ohio laws,” said...

ohiohouse.gov

There was a vote on the issue. the pro-choice side won, by 13 points. The intent of the voters was clear. But that does not matter, it does not matter what the peasants want, this will be decided by their betters.

Ohio voters need to vote these guys out of office, maybe that will settle the issue.

 

[Revoltingest]

Democracy just isn't working for Republicans.

 

[Ponder This]

Ohio GOP lawmakers vow to target state judiciary after passage of Issue 1 abortion measure

A group of four state Republican lawmakers threatened to strip the state judiciary of its jurisdiction to hear cases related to Issue 1, the ballot measure approved by voters Tuesday.

www.cbsnews.com

These elected officials in the "House of Representatives" have no interest in representing their constituents. They want to rule over them.

DECEPTIVE OHIO ISSUE 1 MISLED THE PUBLIC BUT DOESN'T REPEAL OUR LAWS

COLUMBUS, OH - Ohio Legislators will be introducing several bills to address this issue in the coming weeks. “Foreign billionaires don't get to make Ohio laws,” said...

ohiohouse.gov

There was a vote on the issue. the pro-choice side won, by 13 points. The intent of the voters was clear. But that does not matter, it does not matter what the peasants want, this will be decided by their betters.

Ohio voters need to vote these guys out of office, maybe that will settle the issue.

Indications are that they are going to go through with the amendment and that they are going to review every law concerning abortion that is on the books in Ohio. It's a six part complicated amendment with ambiguous wording, and it boths allows and disallows abortions. I think the amendment was poorly written. Whoever was responsible for writing the amendment really failed the people here. But whatever. Ohio has its amendment and the legislature is going to sit down and go through every single abortion law instead of leaving it to judicial review because they didn't get someone to write a properly clean, clear amendment from the very beginning. I wonder if there wasn't some deliberate confusopoly involved.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Indications are that they are going to go through with the amendment and that they are going to review every law concerning abortion that is on the books in Ohio. It's a six part complicated amendment with ambiguous wording, and it boths allows and disallows abortions. I think the amendment was poorly written. Whoever was responsible for writing the amendment really failed the people here. But whatever. Ohio has its amendment and the legislature is going to sit down and go through every single abortion law instead of leaving it to judicial review because they didn't get someone to write a properly clean, clear amendment from the very beginning. I wonder if there wasn't some deliberate confusopoly involved.

Well I'm sure the left has a great plan aside from complaining and whining about the baddd eevilll publicns....

 

[SkepticThinker]

Well I'm sure the left has a great plan aside from complaining and whining about the baddd eevilll publicns....

Sounds like the big "left" plan is: Listen to the voters.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hopefully they will push this. The odds are very great that they will shift the state from red to blue.

 

[Valjean]

Ohio Republicans plan to disregard voters.

Nothing new here. The government no longer tracks the desires of the citizens. We are not a democracy.
"The business of America is business." -- President Calvin Coolidge

Study: Congress literally doesn’t care what you think

I had no idea how bad things actually were until I saw one simple graph.

act.represent.us

 

[Twilight Hue]

Sounds like the big "left" plan is: Listen to the voters.

Thing is, they don't listen to voters.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well I'm sure the left has a great plan aside from complaining and whining about the baddd eevilll publicns....

That you say this is a thread about Reps ignoring voters and doing what they want anyways won't be forgotten (along with your consistent support for anti-choice politicians and positionsand laws).

 

[Twilight Hue]

That you say this is a thread about Reps ignoring voters and doing what they want anyways won't be forgotten (along with your consistent support for anti-choice politicians and positionsand laws).

Show me a post I made wherein I openly support it.

You can't and won't either.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Thing is, they don't listen to voters.

Hmmm, we're in a thread about how Republicans refuse to listen to their voters.
The voters voted for abortion rights. The left isn't doing anything to attempt to silence the people who voted for abortion rights. The Republicans are running around in circles doing everything they can to silence the voters of Ohio.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That you say this is a thread about Reps ignoring voters and doing what they want anyways won't be forgotten (along with your consistent support for anti-choice politicians and positionsand laws).

Ah beat me to it!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Show me a post I made wherein I openly support it.

You can't and won't either.

You support the Right and their anti-choice politicians. You try to word it in a states rights way, but that is not a position of maximizing individual liberty as healthcare and reproductive choices are never properly up for a vote. Politicians and other people can butt out, states rights be damned because all that will achieve is denying rights.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Ah beat me to it!

You support the Right and their anti-choice politicians. You try to word it in a states rights way, but that is not a position of maximizing individual liberty as healthcare and reproductive choices are never properly up for a vote. Politicians and other people can butt out, states rights be damned because all that will achieve is denying rights.

I will always defend states rights. That's a state issue and shouldn't be federal.

Reason is centralized government almost always leads to disaster and more suffering than you can imagine.

At least there are states where one has the freedom to go to that better suits them, not a single unescapable collective like communist China which you seemingly supported as a 'past' Marxist.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I will always defend states rights. That's a state issue and shouldn't be federal.

Reason is centralized government almost always leads to disaster and more suffering than you can imagine.

At least there are states where one has the freedom to go to that better suits them, not a single unescapable collective like communist China which you seemingly supported as a 'past' Marxist.

China has regional autonomy for most issues. That everything is centralised is American fiction.

 

[Twilight Hue]

China has regional autonomy for most issues. That everything is centralised is American fiction.

Tell Hong Kong that.

Tell Taiwan that.

Most importantly of all, tell the Tibetans that.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Tell Hong Kong that.

Tell Taiwan that.

Most importantly of all, tell the Tibetans that.

Hong Kong has settled down again I suspect that the rioters are no longer being paid.
Tibet has been quiet for years. There never was much internal unrest.
And Taiwan has even reduced its arms spend. it will eventually return to home land rule..but like Hong Kong and Macau will have autonomy.

All these places largely fall under their own local rule just as the American states do on most matters.

However none of these matters are the concern of America. It has its own unresolved political problems.

 

[crossfire]

Hmmm, we're in a thread about how Republicans refuse to listen to their voters.
The voters voted for abortion rights. The left isn't doing anything to attempt to silence the people who voted for abortion rights. The Republicans are running around in circles doing everything they can to silence the voters of Ohio.

In August the Republicans tried to push a referendum: Issue 1, that would voter initiatives like this much more difficult. (An effort to silence the voters.)

August 2023 Ohio Issue 1 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[SkepticThinker]

I will always defend states rights. That's a state issue and shouldn't be federal.

Reason is centralized government almost always leads to disaster and more suffering than you can imagine.

At least there are states where one has the freedom to go to that better suits them, not a single unescapable collective like communist China which you seemingly supported as a 'past' Marxist.

Everything seemed to work out pretty well when Roe v. Wade was the law of the land.
Now, not so much.

There's also that pesky Bill of Rights ..

I don't think one's right to bodily autonomy should or should not exist based up on which particular state one is in but that's just me.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Everything seemed to work out pretty well when Roe v. Wade was the law of the land.
Now, not so much.

There's also that pesky Bill of Rights ..

I don't think one's right to bodily autonomy should or should not exist based up on which particular state one is in but that's just me.

I agree personally, but I keep in mind that the world dosent revolve around any single ideal or person.

There are other people who view things differently, and in opposition to what we may see and think on any givin matter which is why I had mentioned in past posts to not to put a lid on any proverbial pressure cooker.

It sounds wrong , but I feel there needs to be places where any person can find an oasis that provides accommodation that suits their perspective and resolution and that includes those who are pro life and anti abortion.

I'm pro choice for my own reasons , but there needs to be places where pro life and anti abortion groups can be accommodated as much as pro choice groups are with some provisions made to protect individuals who are in those places to still be able to make their own decisions without interference.