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Ohio Republicans plan to disregard voters.

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Also troubling is the apparent behind the scenes
Trump's selecting anti-abortion candidates who'd
cluck approval of stare decisis & settled law during
confirmation, & then vote otherwise re Roe v Wade.
Behind the scenes? Dude ****ing told us from his own mouth he'd get in partisan hacks who would strike down Roe v Wade, with one of those hacks saying it's the job of Christian lawyers amd judges to bring about Jehovahs laws and kingdom.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Behind the scenes? Dude ****ing told us from his own mouth he'd get in partisan hacks who would strike down Roe v Wade, with one of those hacks saying it's the job of Christian lawyers amd judges to bring about Jehovahs laws and kingdom.
I'm suggesting actual plotting with his
nominees, ie, personally vetting them.
This Christian Nationalist stuff is really
treason, ie, attempting a theocratic coup.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Compromise is pro-choice as everyone who wants an abortion can get one while those who don't aren't compelled to get one.
That is how we maximize liberty. It isn't by throwing people's healthcare and reproductive rights amd choices to the whims of the voting public. That is tyranny by the majority.
Tyranny by the minority is just as bad as Tyranny of the majority which nessitates compromise.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Then get into another field as obviously amd clearly you went into the wrong field if you can't perform all necessary job duties you were hired to perform.
Especially in healthcare. Bugger off amd get lost. If you want to unload your personal stuff on patients you are in the wrong field and need to be responsible amd find a job that won't compromise your personal morality while causing undue and unfair hardships on patients.
That depends on the opinions of the owners. It's not yours to make.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That depends on the opinions of the owners. It's not yours to make.
It's healthcare. It's about morality, ethics, amd regulations far above the owner (past abuses and wrongs made that necessary). You don't get to unfairly burden patients. Be responsible, be moral and ethical with your career choices and get into a field where your presence is not a detriment and burden upon others.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Like what? Liv8ng in a society that allows abortion? We don't extend that care to those who want to live in a society free of interracial pairing.
Then find a place that accommodates rather than being confrontational on those who just don't see things your way.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Then find a place that accommodates rather than being confrontational on those who just don't see things your way.
Under the "pro-choice" umbrella, "those who just don't see things my way" don't have to do with I do. They don't have to choose what I would choose. They can choose for themselves. They can choose what's best for them. That's the beauty of having the CHOICE.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Then find a place that accommodates rather than being confrontational on those who just don't see things your way.
That doesn't say what people are being forced to do.
And I already explained I do put my own personal **** aside when I'm at work. It would just get me worked up amd needlessly and unfairly stress others. They'd be in the right to file a formal complaint against me, amd as I'm in the medical field that's a complaint that possible would go to the state of California as well as federal agencies who are over healthcare and medical labs.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
That's not your decision to make. It's for a state and it's people's to make that determination.
So liberty and rights are not intrinsic and universal, but granted at the whim of the state? That sounds pretty capricious, inconstant, and rife for abuse as the preferences of the leader/s change. It makes one a pawn of those in power, to be treated any way they please.
The most reliable safeguard of individual rights is democracy, but these are fragile, and people are easily duped by propaganda: big lies, and fabricated issues. Manufactured threats will infantilize people and induce them to relinquish rights for security and strong-father leaders.

Without a Centralized guarantee of specific rights and liberties the U.S. could end up as 50 independent and Balkanized states.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Then find a place that accommodates rather than being confrontational on those who just don't see things your way.
When one enters certain fields one is relinquishing the ability to deny service to others. If one does not want to supply that service to others the time to decide to do that is before one enters into those fields.

For example a county clerk cannot deny who is allowed to get married. That is not his or her job. That person gave up the right not to service people that met the legal standard required when he or she, hmm, I think it was a she, took on that job.

Now when it comes to abortion providers, that is a specialty field. It is quite ironic that you seem to think that a person that decided to enter that field should not have to perform abortions when necessary.
 
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