Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
If the people living there don't see it as a violation of their rights, who's to say otherwise?
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Ohio Republicans plan to disregard voters.
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's not a perfect situation, I'll grant you that, but if your going to recognize freedom for everyone, then within reason it should be respected on both sides of the coin.
Not everyone will deny service for one reason or another. There will always be someone else who will accommodate and neither ought to be discouraged from denial or accommodation.
That's what I view as being fair play.
But they do, clearly. That was what the vote was about. And by a 13 point margin they see it as a violation of their rights.
But look at this from an individual position. What should an individual do to accommodate someone who wants to take away their individual rights.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That would be a simple matter of just going to one who does and damm those who don't.
The way I see it, one gains and one loses and vice versa.
If it's a majority then I don't see why there wouldn't be provided accommodation made by those who are on the same page to preserve their rights without violating another's rights on the flip side.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
It already is. Once again the time to make that decision is before one goes into such fields. One cannot become a waiter and then decide that he will not wait on black people. Or white people either for that matter. One does not even have to tell them that they do not have that choice. It is rather obvious.
No, there are many jobs where a supposed accommodation puts too much stress on the person asking for the services. Who do you think is being ordered to do abortions against their will?
Then you have not thought this through fully. One more time, the time to "refuse service" in many areas is before one even applies for a job. If a person hates mixed race weddings the time to "refuse service" is before one applies. If one does not take on the job he cannot be forced to provide a service that he does not want to.
That is how voting works.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So much for that personal accountability thing Cons and Reps have been endlessly preaching at us. Apparently that's for sluts who should have thought harder before getting themselves pregnant and the poor who are nearly always inevitably poor due to bad choices because when push comes to shove these personal accountability preachers want absolutely nothing to do with it and prefer they get exceptions to be excluded from it entirely.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
True but look at the results of voting.
Division, bickering, name calling etc.
Few can accept the results and accommodate themselves for the duration until the next vote.
In the mean time.....
Those are not the only results of voting. Or at least they shouldn’t be the only results.
For example, when the majority of voters in a State vote to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution, that should result in abortion rights being enshrined in the state constitution.
Do you disagree?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's actually the norm when you live in the real world, something thousands and millions of adults do every other year.
Frightened people are quick to abandon their ideals.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm not aware there were states that included abortion into their constitution.
Have you heard of a state called Ohio? They recently had a ballot measure about including abortion rights in their constitution. I guess you are unaware of that, you literally don't know what you are talking about.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't live in Ohio.
The thing in Ohio is that the people living there DO see it as a violation of their rights, even to the point of voting on a people's initiative to inumerate that right in their state constitution, yet the politicians still are looking for a way to deny these rights, and don't want the courts to judge on the matter.
It's in the Constitution of my State.
The story is in the OP.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yes but it isn't official yet.
No one is looking to take away an individual's right to choose not to have an abortion. Someone else choosing differently for themselves in no way infringes on the rights of any individual to choose for their own self. With freedom of choice, everyone retains their individual freedom of choice and of individual autonomy. These are individual rights, so the only way when one side loses is when one individual is denied their own individual freedom of choice.
But the voters took away the right of
Pubs to deny others the right to abortion.
That appears to be the complaint.