Subduction Zone
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That could be. They did not start the fire. They may have just used it since they could not put it out.
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Ohio train de-railment, massive chemical spill/burn what's going with that?
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amorphous_constellation
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I been going through and reading a lot of youtube comments on the videos, and it's looking to me like a lot of the public near that area is kinda near 90% sketched out by the this whole thing. There was one video of a guy getting pretty angry looking the sky, in a town a ways south, I think, from the event
I think I read or heard that a guy's sickened foxes were like 10 miles away from it, but don't quote me on that
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amorphous_constellation
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You guys might be making smart points, but could there be a trade-off? Didn't airborne pollutants affect people after 9/11, and also the burn pits in the Iraq war that get talked about? And what about the civilians over there that were near those burn pits?
You know, shouldn't there be like drone footage of this, of what they did at the scene. How much fire was there initially, before they did the controlled burning? If they got all the stuff into ditches they dug, and it was liquefied, then was dispersing it into the air the best thing to do? It wasn't on fire when they put it in the trenches/ditches right? Could an attempt have been made to siphon some of it up, before the main fire reached it.. I assume technology like that exists. But then as you say, maybe it could have got into the water, more-so
More questions than answers for residents poisoned by Ohio train derailment
In the middle of the above article, there is some serious pessimism from a hazardous materials specialist, and supposedly the train company will send contractors to the test the water?.. The train company will do it?
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You're really dropping the ball here.
The important thing for us internet gadflies is
to criticize how its handled, but with no
understanding or analysis of the alternatives.
Moreover, we should suggest conspiracies
based upon feeling things are mysterious.
I'll wager that George Soros & the banking
elites are behind this. But it could also be
Hunter Biden.
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
Good points. Well, I guess it's time we go back to the sorts of things that the human mind can comprehend, like octagon-shaped spacecraft over lake huron, that can jam radars, and have long strings coming off the edges
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
Oh ho, is that in addition to the $25,000 they offered?
I thought people were supposed to be wary when someone says "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Yes.
And then we on the internet are supposed
to launch our conspiracy theories. So....
Where are yours, bub?
Conspiracy theories? I don't have any on this occasion. Usually when things like this happen, one of the first things that comes to mind is "What could have been done to prevent this?"
I noticed that no one has gone there.
Long ago, I did a bit'o work in the rail industry
at Knorr Bremse. It was interesting. But I'd
have to look into things far more if I were to
make suggestions to improve safety.
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
Well lobbying was mentioned as a possible thing that, could you know, stop the addition of high tech brakes etc. Why is that going on. I often post about wanting to revert partly back to a low-tech way of life. And I'm not really sure what you're talking about with this 'conspiracy theories' thing, or what or who you're referencing. Whenever something happens, listing a wide range of questions and concerns is probably the most logical thing to ever do, and it's all I've ever done.
And by the way, I could probably reference a dozen posts, from me, about being concerned about the ukraine/russia situation months before it happened. These were often ignored by people. In fact, I made one post about that to somebody many, many years ago somewhere on the internet.com, and they basically called me a complete moron, and said that the russians and ukrainians were eternal friends, linked by religion and culture.
And I posted to you, more than a few times, about how there was a nuclear war risk, before this current situation, and I don't recall being taken seriously
What brake technology are you thinking of?
No one is going back in time (technologically).
And rail accidents were once even worse.
Know what a "snake head" is?
I've posted seriously about nuclear war.
So there might be some agreement there.
The Wiki article on the crash mentioned it:
In response to multiple contemporary train derailments, including the 2012 derailment of a train carrying toxic chemicals in Paulsboro, New Jersey, new regulations were issued by the administration of then-President Barack Obama in 2015 requiring train companies to replace the brakes of trains carrying oil and certain flammable liquids, including chemicals, with electronically controlled pneumatic (or ECP) brakes. These regulations were intended to mitigate the damage of a potential future derailment and subsequent toxic spill. In 2018, amid lobbying efforts by the railway industry, the regulations on ECP brakes were repealed by the administration of then-President Donald Trump. This move has come under scrutiny, as Trump was the recipient of more than $6 million in campaign contributions from the railway industry while campaigning for President. Among those companies lobbying for the rule's repeal was Norfolk Southern, the company that operated the derailed train, leading some to criticize the appearance of a conflict of interest. At least one member of the Federal Railway Administration has stated that the accident was "preventable" had the train in question had ECP brakes, leading others to the conclusion that Norfolk Southern chose measures meant to lower costs in lieu of preventing hazard.
amorphous_constellation
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The whole complaint, from what I can tell, is that are still using very old technology for brakes as opposed to something more electronic.
what is a 'snakehead?'
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
Is true now that residents were approached with a contract to sign, saying that they could not hold the rail company and a safety contractor liable? I heard that in the middle of a glenn beck video. What do you guys think of that?
"Electronically controlled brakes" is a label.
I wondered what the technology is, because
electronics is just a component. The function
is the important thing.
I could look it up meself...& I just might. But
I'd hoped someone was already familiar with
what they advocated.
The brakes are ordinary pneumatically applied
disk brakes...at least that's what I've always
run across.
A snakehead is an ancient accident...when an
iron strap on a wooden rail comes loose, & sticks
up into a railcar. Prolly hasn't happened in over
150 years. Just a bit'o trivia there.
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
Well my car is from 2020, and the dealer explained that there is nothing mechanical in - between my brake pedal and the actual brakes. I don't know if it is something like that. Maybe the idea is that the latency of the signal would be less, I don't know. In truth, I have somewhat mixed feelings about it, regarding my car. But maybe the application in the train makes sense, when you think of how long a train is. Maybe you can tell me. Or someone else can tell us.