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Ohm's Law forbade God?

shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
questfortruth said:
Google: Placebo effect. I found no convincing explanation of it within atheism.

Google: Dark Matter. No explanation either.

Google: ball lightning. No explanation, because there are no human-made ball lightnings (lab balls which last only 1 second are not equivalent to nature ball lightning).

Google: Freewill of a human soul. Freewill means, that the world is not deterministic (no Laplace demon there). Interplay then between human and nature includes my X-factor into nature.
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Bizzaro! Foolishness and bottom line false. Arguing from supposed ignorance' is a logical fallacy
 
questfortruth

questfortruth

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Howard Is said:
Yeah, but I would need to do some searching to find a good explanation.

Why do you ask ?
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Another mystery is the fact of the war of currents between Tesla and Eddison: the alternating current (AC) can be transfered at long distances without so much losses as in the case of the direct current (DC). Is the Ohm's law for alternating current different from I=U/R?
 
questfortruth

questfortruth

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shunyadragon said:
Again . . . not a theist. Pantheist - Our physical existence is essentially God. No different in substance from atheism, agnosticism and the various schools of Naturalism.
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There is not a personal god in pantheism, however there is impersonal god. In contrast, there are no gods in atheism.
 
robocop (actually)

robocop (actually)

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Premium Member
questfortruth said:
Yes, the Newton and Einstein are theists. But I argue, that their faith
was not reflected in their professional activity.
Namely, where is the room for biblical miracles in the known equations
of Physics?! No such possibility is demonstrated yet. This article fixes
the problem.

A believer might say: "Miracles are in those laws that your scientists
have not yet discovered."
I reply to him: "Miracles are forbidden by already written scientific
textbooks."

For example, Ohm's law forbade such a miracle: to touch a high-voltage
wire (or receive a lightning strike) and stay alive. But the great inventor
Nikola Tesla often played with voltages and even passed a million volts
through himself! Therefore, Ohm's law must contain the function X = X(t)
in this form: I = X * U / R. In situations where a miracle does not happen
the electric current kills a person (e.g., at time moment t=3), and
therefore then X(3) = 1.

Yes, God as Lawgiver wrote the laws of physics as well. But not in the form
that is in the textbooks. Because they contain only natural functions.
For example, Coulomb's law, Ampere's law, Ohm's law. There is no place
in them for freewill, miracles, angels, and God. How did all scientists
not become atheists by now?!

In contrast to Newton and Einstein, I have spiritual functions. You can
understand this by reading the article:
Gravity Law Without Universalism is Solving Many Tasks, viXra.org e-Print archive, viXra:2007.0112
Now it is being reviewed by one of the top journals. Already about two
months. There, a certain freedom is introduced into the equations of
Physics -- an arbitrary function $X = X(t, x, y, z)$. If so, then
miracles and human freewill can be included in the realm of serious
study. Moreover, the article shows that current laws and phenomena do
not work without this free function, as example the X-factor has the
Dark Matter phenomenon.

\section{Let us start Natural Theology}

Quote from WWW:
``The scientific method employs something called methodological naturalism.
This is the presumption that natural causes and explanations can be found
for what we observe in nature. That principle (and the reliance on
observation to support hypotheses) is the whole point behind the science.
It is what has made it so successful ever since the Renaissance at
explaining the physical world."

This, means, that science has methodological atheism as the starting
method. Natural Theology has Theism as the basis of all activity. The
research of nature is the department under Theology then. Such a
department has LHCollider as well. In such an "utopian" world the
theists took over. Look: we talked about Multiverse. Thus, in some
alternative reality in 2020 AD we have public lead school prayers in USA.

The way of research activity shapes the entire society and humankind.
Accepting the God, one says definitely yes to all his names: Love,
Police, Justice, Reason, Respect, Life, Knowledge, Faith.... Spirit
of all that exists comes from God, thus it is the names of God. God
is not a tree, God is not a bird, but God is Creativity itself. Doubting
the existence of God put in doubt all existing concepts, as it is unclear
their origin. Having not taken the position one is being in limbo
between two spirits: Holy Spirit, the evil spirit. God is the Spirit.
Being in limbo between two gods, human does not move forward, because
one's name is Lie and Death, other's name is Life and Reason. The
question of God's existence is the question: ``is death better than life?",
which is sense behind the famous quote
``Be or not to be - that is the question" (Shakespear, Hamlet).

However, the real era of Natural Theology will start, after the Second
Comming of God.
Thus, I am describing not the present situation (which will never change
prior to the Second Comming). I am sure, the methodological naturalism
won't be allowed in Heaven. I mean, if it happens, that Creationists are
right, then were be the study of the Virtual Big Bang, not the Actual
Big Bang (llok my viXra file as introduction).

Naturalism is the belief, that God does not influence the world, that
there is no God in the world. Thus, it is not different from atheism.
Thus, atheism is the method of science. Thus, the science has an
anti-religious agenda, for example, Charles Darwin's Evolution has ripped
off the Church many innocent souls.
``Who is not with Me, is against Me" (Jesus Christ). Jesus is consistent:
God is Life, thus, who is against Life, serves Death. Why? The reality has
sources. The illusion has sources. The original source of reality is God.
The original source of illusion is satan. There is no third option in my
religion.
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Which is more amazing? That there could be miracles for human beings or that there could be human beings in the first place?
 
Katzpur

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
questfortruth said:
A believer might say: "Miracles are in those laws that your scientists
have not yet discovered."
I reply to him: "Miracles are forbidden by already written scientific
textbooks."
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And that pretty much says you believe scientists have already discovered everything there is to discover.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I say.....God created substance and set the rules

given enough spirit.....you could be trusted to break the rules

walk on water
heal the sick

apparently ......most of us cannot be trusted

note my avatar
 
questfortruth

questfortruth

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