• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

On Handling the Quran

dendrophilous

Wandering
Hello all. I have been searching religions and yesterday went to the bookstore and bought myself a copy of the Quran. The version I got had both the original Arabic text as well as the English translation, along with lots of footnotes explaining the text. It's very informative and I'm coming to understand (and like) the religion more.

Today, however, I was online looking up some things and found something that said non-believers shouldn't handle a hard copy of the Quran with original Arabic in it, and that even believers have to be "clean." I further searched the subject and found these things to be generally accepted. Most people agreed that you had to "cleanse yourself" before handling it. What does this mean? I understand it's a holy text and by no means wish any disrespect, but I'm curious about the religion and what the Quran has to say. Is it OK that I handle and read it because I am genuinely interested? What does it mean to cleanse myself? Why are there these rules?
 

Bismillah

Submit
Salaam alaikum (peace be upon you)
he version I got had both the original Arabic text as well as the English translation, along with lots of footnotes explaining the text. It's very informative and I'm coming to understand (and like) the religion more.
The version you have includes English text alongside the Arabic so it is not a mushaf, meaning that it is fine for you to have.

Additionally because it is a translation and not a mushaf (which means the compiled written word of the Qur'an) no you do not have to make wudu when you touch it.

The wudu is ritual ablution done by Muslims before reciting their five daily prayers as well as before touching the Qur'an. According to one narration of the Prophet the Muslims will be visible on the day of judgement by the light shining from where they would wash themselves for prayer.

The intention of wudu is to cleanse yourself both externally and internally so that you devote yourself to God without the taint and distraction of the material world. Therefore it should begin before water touches the skin in your mind according to your intention of making wudu for the sake of Allah to worship in a state of purity.

Final note: I think one of the most important things for my own realization when I was going through the Qur'an for the first time is that the medium of transmission is oral. It was not sent down as a book and it wasn't spread as a book. The Qur'an is an auditory masterpiece as much as it is a literary standard. Even the meaning of Qur'an itself is recitation so when I first started to reread while listening to a recitation, it truly felt like I was reading something unique.

For example the stylistic delivery of this recitation is just as powerful as the narrative

[youtube]-0UullPIXVA[/youtube]
Saad Al-Ghamidi--Surah Ar-Rahman w/Translation - YouTube
 

dendrophilous

Wandering
Oh good, I'm glad it's OK. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't causing any disrespect.

The video you linked is beautiful... I think I'll listen to it while I'm reading. I'll have to look up some other recitations as well.

Thank you for taking your time to answer! :)
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
Hello all. I have been searching religions and yesterday went to the bookstore and bought myself a copy of the Quran. The version I got had both the original Arabic text as well as the English translation, along with lots of footnotes explaining the text. It's very informative and I'm coming to understand (and like) the religion more.

Today, however, I was online looking up some things and found something that said non-believers shouldn't handle a hard copy of the Quran with original Arabic in it, and that even believers have to be "clean." I further searched the subject and found these things to be generally accepted. Most people agreed that you had to "cleanse yourself" before handling it. What does this mean? I understand it's a holy text and by no means wish any disrespect, but I'm curious about the religion and what the Quran has to say. Is it OK that I handle and read it because I am genuinely interested? What does it mean to cleanse myself? Why are there these rules?

Peace be on you. Since you want to read Holy Quran with reverance, here are few points:

1= God is Holy.
According to Holy Quran:
[Chapter 59 : Verse 24]
" He is Allah, and there is no God beside Him, the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace, the Bestower of Security, the Protector, the Mighty, the Subduer, the Exalted. Holy is Allah far above that which they associate with Him."
alislam.org/quran


2= About His Book, the Holy One says:
[56:78] That this is indeed a noble Qur’an,
[56:79] In a well-preserved Book,
[56:80] Which none shall touch except those who are purified.
[56:81] It is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
Detailed Notes : https://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=2570&region=E1&CR=EN,E2&CR=EN,E2



3= Quote For Advanced Stage, May you and we all have it. Ameen:

"The Glorious Qur'an
..... God states true believers are those who: ‘They to whom We have given the Book follow it as it ought to be followed…’(2:122)
The Qur’an should be read while reflecting on its words, with regularity and with effort to put its directives in practice rather than casually, as if in the manner of a discarded thing........God Himself guides on how to maintain the honour of the Qur’an and how to give it precedence. The Qur’an states, ‘And when thou recitest the Qur’an, seek refuge with Allah from Satan the rejected.’ (16:99)......... Satan has challenged to deviate man from righteousness whereas every word of the Qur’an leads to guidance. This is why God enjoins that if one wishes to attain high level of nearness to Him, then before reading His teaching one should pray most sincerely to be protected from the attacks of Satan and to be given the ability to practice its teachings......."
Source:From the Friday Sermon of Ahmadiyya Muslim Khalifah
 
Last edited:

Pastek

Sunni muslim
Today, however, I was online looking up some things and found something that said non-believers shouldn't handle a hard copy of the Quran with original Arabic in it, and that even believers have to be "clean." I further searched the subject and found these things to be generally accepted. Most people agreed that you had to "cleanse yourself" before handling it. What does this mean? I understand it's a holy text and by no means wish any disrespect, but I'm curious about the religion and what the Quran has to say. Is it OK that I handle and read it because I am genuinely interested? What does it mean to cleanse myself? Why are there these rules?

Hi

I think what he says is correct.

[youtube]2ZEunNuYpi0[/youtube]
Hussain Yee Convert to islam - YouTube
 

dendrophilous

Wandering
Okay, so I'm in the second chapter and the fourth verse interested me (that would be 2:4, right?).
"And who believe in that which has been revealed to thee and that which was revealed before thee, and of the Hereafter they are sure."

I looked at the footnotes and it explained that this is the the fourth of the fundamental principles of Islam: a belief in all prophets and truths in all religions worldwide, "that God has always been made known to man through Divine revelation, and that revelation is a universal fact."

That intrigues me. If I'm understanding this right, you believe that all religions are inspired by God, right? And if so, what do you think of people of other religions? The next few verses talk of disbelievers. Is this in reference to people who don't believe in God, or people of other religions in general? What do you think happens to people of other religions after death? Does Allah still smile upon them too, because their religion was still inspired by him?
 

Union

Well-Known Member
Okay, so I'm in the second chapter and the fourth verse interested me (that would be 2:4, right?).
"And who believe in that which has been revealed to thee and that which was revealed before thee, and of the Hereafter they are sure."

I looked at the footnotes and it explained that this is the the fourth of the fundamental principles of Islam: a belief in all prophets and truths in all religions worldwide, "that God has always been made known to man through Divine revelation, and that revelation is a universal fact."

That intrigues me. If I'm understanding this right, you believe that all religions are inspired by God, right? And if so, what do you think of people of other religions? The next few verses talk of disbelievers. Is this in reference to people who don't believe in God, or people of other religions in general? What do you think happens to people of other religions after death? Does Allah still smile upon them too, because their religion was still inspired by him?

Well in the Sight of Almighty ALLAH , the only unforgivable sin is Shirk , i.e., associating partner(s) with GOD . HE , the Exalted left no room for negotiation in the case of Shirk :

[004:048] God forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with God is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed.

[004:116] God forgiveth not (The sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with God, Hath strayed far, far away (from the right)

Apart from this grave sin any person from any religion can be admitted in heaven due to their good acts and pure submission to Almighty GOD :

[002:062] Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

[005:069] Lo! those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Sabaeans, and Christians - Whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.
 

dendrophilous

Wandering
By 'partners,' what do you mean? People who believe in multiple gods, like Hindus or pagans? Or people who believe themselves to be gods? What happens to these people? What of atheists?
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
Okay, so I'm in the second chapter and the fourth verse interested me (that would be 2:4, right?).
"And who believe in that which has been revealed to thee and that which was revealed before thee, and of the Hereafter they are sure."

I looked at the footnotes and it explained that this is the the fourth of the fundamental principles of Islam: a belief in all prophets and truths in all religions worldwide, "that God has always been made known to man through Divine revelation, and that revelation is a universal fact."

That intrigues me. If I'm understanding this right, you believe that all religions are inspired by God, right? And if so, what do you think of people of other religions? The next few verses talk of disbelievers. Is this in reference to people who don't believe in God, or people of other religions in general? What do you think happens to people of other religions after death? Does Allah still smile upon them too, because their religion was still inspired by him?

No we don't believe that all religions are inspired by God.

The disbelievers are like you said people who don't believe in God. But it can also be people who disbelieve in some prophets or some things like the Judgment day.

But it's all explained if you keep reading.
 

Union

Well-Known Member
By 'partners,' what do you mean? People who believe in multiple gods, like Hindus or pagans? Or people who believe themselves to be gods? What happens to these people? What of atheists?

By partners what you understood is right . About atheist the following verse may clarify that it is absolutely wrong not to believe in GOD :

[012:037] He said: "Before any food comes (in due course) to feed either of you, I will surely reveal to you the truth and meaning of this ere it befall you: that is part of the (duty) which my Lord hath taught me. I have (I assure you) abandoned the ways of a people that believe not in God and that (even) deny the Hereafter.
 

Bismillah

Submit
As-salaam alaikum
Okay, so I'm in the second chapter and the fourth verse interested me (that would be 2:4, right?).
"And who believe in that which has been revealed to thee and that which was revealed before thee, and of the Hereafter they are sure."

I looked at the footnotes and it explained that this is the the fourth of the fundamental principles of Islam: a belief in all prophets and truths in all religions worldwide, "that God has always been made known to man through Divine revelation, and that revelation is a universal fact."

That intrigues me. If I'm understanding this right, you believe that all religions are inspired by God, right? And if so, what do you think of people of other religions?
This is a good question, for some added insight here's another exegis on the highlighted verse "And who believe in that which has been bestowed from on high upon thee, [O Prophet,] as well as in that which was bestowed before thy time: [5] for it is they who in their innermost are certain of the life to come! [Surah Bakarah Ayah 4]"
M Asad said:
This is a reference to one of the fundamental doctrines of the Qur'an: the doctrine of the historical continuity of divine revelation. Life - so the Qur'an teaches us - is not a series of unconnected jumps but a continuous, organic process: and this law applies also to the life of the mind, of which man's religious experience (in its cumulative sense) is a part. Thus, the religion of the Qur'an can be properly understood only against the background of the great monotheistic faiths which preceded it, and which, according to Muslim belief, culminate and achieve their final formulation in the faith of Islam.(Quran Ref: 2:4 )
Emphasis mine. This verse and the verse preceding it are related to verse 2:2 which is proclaiming that this is the book wherein there is no doubt for those who are conscious of Allah, so that these people who find guidance in the Qur'an have these attributes (such as being in constant prayer, spending the rizq provided by Allah on others and those who believe that there were Prophets before Muhammad and as the Prophet Muhammad being the culmination of all these revelatory scriptures and messengers)
dendrophilous said:
The next few verses talk of disbelievers. Is this in reference to people who don't believe in God, or people of other religions in general?
Two types of people are introduced those who disbelieve (kuffar) in 2:6 and those who give lie to their belief (the hypocrites called munafiqoon) in 2:8. Of those who disbelieve
M Asad said:
In contrast with the frequently occurring term al-kafirun ("those who deny the truth"), the use of the past tense in alladhina kafaru indicates conscious intent, and is, therefore, appropriately rendered as "those who are bent on denying the truth". This interpretation is supported by many commentators, especially Zamakhshari (who, in his commentary on this verse, uses the expression, "those who have deliberately resolved upon their kufr"). Elsewhere in the Qur'an such people are spoken of as having "hearts with which they fail to grasp the truth, and eyes with which they fail to see, and ears with which they fail to hear" (7:179). - For an explanation of the terms kufr ("denial of the truth"), kafir ("one who denies the truth"), etc., see note 4 on 74:10, where this concept appears for the first time in Qur'anic revelation.(Quran Ref: 2:6 )
And for additional information on this term for disbelief and the disbelievers
M Asad said:
Since this is the earliest Qur'anic occurrence of the expression kafir (the above surah having been preceded only by the first five verses of surah 96), its use here - and, by implication, in the whole of the Qur’an - is obviously determined by the meaning which it had in the speech of the Arabs before the advent of the Prophet Muhammad: in other words, the term kafir cannot be simply equated, as many Muslim theologians of post-classical times and practically all Western translators of the Qur’an have done, with "unbeliever" or "infidel" in the specific, restricted sense of one who rejects the system of doctrine and law promulgated in the Qur’an and amplified by the teachings of the Prophet - but must have a wider, more general meaning. This meaning is easily grasped when we bear in mind that the root verb of the participial noun kafir (and of the infinitive noun kufr) is kafara, "he [or "it"] covered [a thing]": thus, in 57:20 the tiller of the soil is called (without any pejorative implication) kafir, "one who covers", i.e., the sown seed with earth, just as the night is spoken of as having "covered" (kafara) the earth with darkness. In their abstract sense, both the verb and the nouns derived from it have a connotation of "concealing" something that exists or "denying" something that is true. Hence, in the usage of the Qur’an - with the exception of the one instance ((in 57:20) where this participial noun signifies a "tiller of the soil" - a kafir is "one who denies [or "refuses to acknowledge"] the truth" in the widest, spiritual sense of this latter term: that is, irrespective of whether it relates to a cognition of the supreme truth - namely, the existence of God - or to a doctrine or ordinance enunciated in the divine writ, or to a self-evident moral proposition, or to an acknowledgment of, and therefore gratitude for, favours received. (Regarding the expression alladhinakafaru, implying conscious intent, see surah 2, note 6.) (Quran Ref: 74:10)
So what to learn from this? Firstly that when we are talking about the kuffar it is not a simple disbelief in Islam but rather actively concealing belief from your own self (as stated by Asad above). What you must remember is that the Qur'an was spread by the Prophet orally and transmitted to both the disbelievers and believers alike. The original Meccan kuffar were those who plae candle wax in their ears "so as not to be swayed by the magic of this utterance" and those who would witness the Prophet and hold his values to be just be go on disbelieving givings excuses such as "we cannot abandon the religion of our fathers". So a kaffir requires active disbelief when presented with the message and it is actually a warning to those who are reading the Qur'an presently as well, to approach it with an open heart as opposed to those who would bury and conceal this message.
dendrophilous said:
What do you think happens to people of other religions after death? Does Allah still smile upon them too, because their religion was still inspired by him?
I think it's important to first consider a few premises before asking this question of what Muslims think happens to others

1. God exists
2. We exist to worship God as every other creation does, we are unique in that our worship is done from our own will.
3. Islam is the last revelation by God sent to humanity detailing how to worship him.

Now my brother Union has posted verses of great relevance and correctly stated that there is no crime which is unforgivable aside from shirk because it debases the idea of God himself as well as our principle motive in worshiping him. As Asad states "God's transcendental oneness and uniqueness aims at freeing man from all sense of dependence on other influences and powers, and thus at elevating him spiritually and bringing about the purification [of man]" but this is ideal for man to purify himself by depending on Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala (the Golorius and Exalted) is vitiated by shirk (which is multifaceted and includes things like worship of wealth and all the material things this world has to offer but instead at this point we should simply understand it as something that distracts from the absolute transcendence of Allah from anything else).

Imam Ghazali (a great theologian and commentator of classical Islam and giant of Islamic mysticism) said after our Prophet was sent, people who do not believe are divided into three categories:

1st category: Those who did not hear the call of the Prophet and who were not informed about the Prophet. This group will definitely go to Paradise.

2nd category: The people who saw the state of the miracles shown by the Prophet and heard about his high ethics but who did not believe. This group will definitely go to Hell.

3rd category: It is the group between those two groups. They heard about the name of the Prophet But they did not hear about his characteristics. More precisely, They had known our Prophet ,since they were young, as – God forbid – an impostor whose name is Muhammad and who claimed to be a prophet. They heard nothing but negative propaganda about the Prophet; just like our children who heard about “Musaylama al-Kadhdhab” as an impostor who claimed to be a prophet.

Imam Ghazali does not make a definite judgment about them but he adds the following In my opinion, their state is like that of the first category; That is, like those who did not hear about our Prophet because they heard the name of our Prophet with the attributes that are opposite to his characteristics. This does not lead a person to think about it and to investigate it. (from this article which also goes in greater detail as well as the beliefs of two other great Imams of Islamic creed)

You might also be interested in this short video which further explains the above

[youtube]fqZpNj76HtI[/youtube]
Are Paul Walker & Nelson Mandela Going To Hell?
 

Bismillah

Submit
A final bit of advice, when reading the Qur'an it is unique from reading another book or piece of literature in that it is not chronological and does not necessarily build off the other. You can read surahs (which can be simplified as chapters) alone because each has its own specific message and intention. The Qur'an will go through and clarify these latter issues of what is kufr, who are kuffar, what awaits on the Day of Judgement but it is important as you are reading not to lose sight of the message being presented presently! For example all of this discussion ties back to the second verse 2:2 which is stating that for those who wish to receive guidance from this book then you must posses yourself with certain qualities and avoid others (including burying the message as soon as it enters your hearing).

A useful commentary of this structure by Maulana Ahsan Islahi
1. Each Quranic surah has a dominant idea, called the axis of that surah, around which all the verses of that surah revolve. Thus no verse, or no group of verses, stands alone but has a direct relation with the axis of the surah and is part of the coherent scheme of the surah.

2. The surahs of the Quran exist in pairs, the two surahs of any pair being complementary to each other and, together constituting a unit. There are a few exceptions, however. The first surah, Fatihah, does not have a complement, because it is a kind of a preface to the whole of the Quran. All the other exceptions too are not exceptions in the real sense of the word since each one of them is an appendix to one or the other surah.

3. The 114 surahs of the Quran fall into seven groups. The first group comes to an end at surah 5, the second at surah 9, the third at surah 24, the fourth at surah 33, the fifth at surah 49, the sixth at surah 66, and the seventh at surah 114. Each group contains one or more Makkan surahs followed by one or more Madinan surahs of the same cast. Like individual surahs or each pair of surahs, each group has a central theme which runs through all its surahs, knitting them into a distinct body. In each group, the themes of the other groups also occur but as subsidiary themes.

4. Each group logically leads to the next, and thus all the groups become variations on the basic theme of the Quran, which is: 'Allah's call to man to adopt the right path'.

Also maybe, if you want, you could revive this thread :)
 
Last edited:

dendrophilous

Wandering
Thank you all for your answers! They are very informative. I appreciate the videos as well. I have many more questions but I'm pressed for time this evening, I'll leave just a couple here for now...

Imam Ghazali (a great theologian and commentator of classical Islam and giant of Islamic mysticism) said after our Prophet was sent, people who do not believe are divided into three categories:

1st category: Those who did not hear the call of the Prophet and who were not informed about the Prophet. This group will definitely go to Paradise.

2nd category: The people who saw the state of the miracles shown by the Prophet and heard about his high ethics but who did not believe. This group will definitely go to Hell.

I'm sure I'm missing something so I have to ask... why would people work to spread Islam if both a person's ignorance or acceptance would grant them Paradise, but rejection would grant them Hell? It seems it would be better to not tell your dearest friends about Islam because in their state of ignorance, they will still go to Paradise. But if you tell them, one of two things happen:
1. They accept it and they still go to Paradise
2. They reject it and now they will go to Hell
It would seem almost cruel then to tell people of Islam just to risk their eternal life... perhaps that would risk your own soul, but I would see that as a self-sacrifice in many ways. I would rather hop into a fire myself than allow my niece to burn, if that makes sense.
I mean, I understand the concept -- babies, the isolated, they are innocent -- but at the same time, suddenly there is a burden on the believers. What am I missing? And why would Allah dish an infinite punishment (eternity in hell) for a finite crime (disbelief in a short lifetime)?
 

Bismillah

Submit
Salaam alaikum
dendrophilous said:
I'm sure I'm missing something so I have to ask... why would people work to spread Islam if both a person's ignorance or acceptance would grant them Paradise
Ignorance of Allah's messenger and his message does not absolve someone of all their crimes, it only absolves them from the shari'ah (religious path) of Islam. Such a person would still be judged on his merits accordingly by Al-Hakam (the Judge] "[For, indeed,] God will judge between you [all] on Resurrection Day with regard to all on which you were wont to differ." (Surah Hajj Ayah 69)

A Muslim does not devote himself to Allah through his salah or zakah or hajj alone. The ideal of a Muslim is to submit your entire life to him, to have the intentions of all your actions and thoughts be propelled by Allah. That is why we say I love you for the sake of Allah and the man who loves his brother for the sake of Allah will be given paradise. With the proper intention our entire life becomes devotion to him.

Similarly a man who does not know of the Prophet should still propel himself to do justice and goodness not for his own sake or for vanity and arrogance but for pure intentions.

To show someone Islam is meritorious because it is through Islam and the footsteps of the Prophet that we can achieve this ideal as close as humanely possible.

dendrophilious said:
And why would Allah dish an infinite punishment (eternity in hell) for a finite crime (disbelief in a short lifetime)?
Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is outside of time or space, whatever we do does not increase or decrease him. Rather when someone disbelieves in Allah and continues in their disbelief to become a kafir then were he to be outside of the confines of time and mortality he would continue in his disbelief never wavering. It is someone who fell into disbelief and continued it so that his heart is hardened and his eyes are veiled.

Any other crime is less than this because the victims of such crimes are always human. A man who is murdered has his life cut short, but what is the worth of an ephemeral life when in context the victim is granted absolution in the everlasting life hereafter? A man is made poor but what is the worth of riches in this world when the man is given blessings of the everlasting life hereafter? However to deny Allah is to deny your rizq, the source of life and provenance and death and affliction. It's from him that all things originate and it's also to him that we are all indebted.

I hope this made some sense.
 
Last edited:

loverOfTruth

Well-Known Member
Hi there...I am happy that you are interested in Islam and asking the questions to find out the answers from the source. Others here are doing a great job in answering your questions as well. However, I would like to add few points to some of your questions. Due to time constraints, I'll answer bits and pieces at a time. Hope this will clarify some of your concerns.


And why would Allah dish an infinite punishment (eternity in hell) for a finite crime (disbelief in a short lifetime)?

The punishment of the Hereafter is eternal for those who were stubborn against the Truth.

People who are stubborn against the Truth remain stubborn their entire lives, despite being given countless chances to repent and submit to the Truth. In fact, they have reached a stage, where, as the Qur’an says below, even if they were returned to life after having tasted the fire of Hell, they would still go back to the same sins they used to commit.

“If you could but see when they will be held over the (Hell) Fire! They will say: “Would that we were but sent back (to the world)! Then we would not deny the Sign of our Lord, and we would be of the believers! Nay, it has become manifest to them what they had been concealing before. But if they were returned (to the world), they would certainly revert to that which they were forbidden. And indeed they are liars.” (6:27-28)

Their punishment is eternal because, given the chance, they would have done evil eternally. Imam Sadiq (a.s) was asked the same question and he replied:

'Surely, people of Hell are eternally in Hell because their intention was if they lived in this world eternally they would disobey God eternally, likewise people of Paradise will be eternally in Paradise becasue their intention was if they lived in this world eternally they would worship God eternally.' (al-Kaafi, vol.2 p.85)" [1]

[1]http://www.askthesheikh.com/is-it-fair-that-god-punishes-sinners-for-eternity-in-the-next-world-for-their-sins/
 

loverOfTruth

Well-Known Member
Thank you all for your answers! They are very informative. I appreciate the videos as well. I have many more questions but I'm pressed for time this evening, I'll leave just a couple here for now...

I'm sure I'm missing something so I have to ask... why would people work to spread Islam if both a person's ignorance or acceptance would grant them Paradise, but rejection would grant them Hell? It seems it would be better to not tell your dearest friends about Islam because in their state of ignorance, they will still go to Paradise. But if you tell them, one of two things happen:
1. They accept it and they still go to Paradise
2. They reject it and now they will go to Hell
It would seem almost cruel then to tell people of Islam just to risk their eternal life... perhaps that would risk your own soul, but I would see that as a self-sacrifice in many ways. I would rather hop into a fire myself than allow my niece to burn, if that makes sense.
I mean, I understand the concept -- babies, the isolated, they are innocent -- but at the same time, suddenly there is a burden on the believers. What am I missing?

I think you might be missing part of the equation about Islam here.

From the worldly point of view, Islam is a complete way of life and which literally means 'peaceful submission to the will of God' which (if practiced) will give you inner peace, prosperity, protection from evil etc. Moreover, according to the Qur'an we were created just to worship God as stated in the Holy Qur'an : "And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me." (51:56)
So that's the whole purpose behind why God sent Messengers/Prophets throughout time to guide mankind towards God and a good way of life in this world.

And that's precisely why, we are not supposed to keep such a precious guidance to ourselves only. In fact, God commands us to let people know because there will be no more Messengers coming to guide people to the Truth to the knowledge of God. The following Quranic verses should shed some light on that.
"Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance." (Al Qur'an 16:125)
"Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."(Al Qur'an 3:110)

Cause you may never know without this guidance when they end up getting involved in evil in this world and get themselves and others in trouble. Plus, you do not control how they know about Islam, may be they did find out from someone already and didn't give it much thought but had it been you(a close person they trust) they might have accepted it. So the point is there are so many unknowns as to could have/should have - so it is not necessary that they will be saved if you didn't mention it to them and consequences could be much worse in this world, which you obviously don't want.

Hope this makes sense. Peace.
 

dendrophilous

Wandering
Thank you for all your responses. I've found a little consolidation, but I'm going to continue reading the Qur'an to see if I can find my own answers. I'll continue to post questions. Even if I don't decide to convert, I want to know as much as I can.
 
Top