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Salty Booger

Salty Booger

Royal Crown Cola (RC)
KAT-KAT said:
That I'd have to do a bit more research on. I'm skeptical that the airlines will use all of that money wisely at all, but other things in the economic stimulus bill include funding a place where Nancy Pelosi does her speeches and a lot of other things, and fraudulent payments to people filing false claims of small business to get loans, then buy fancy cars, etc through a program that didn't try to check up on small businesses much before the payouts.
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I don't know for certain myself. I am assuming there has been abuses of the system, but I haven't heard a whole lot.
 
Salty Booger

Salty Booger

Royal Crown Cola (RC)
There are things I would like to try but have no desire to own. Like it would be fun to rent a Harley Davidson for a couple days, but I wouldn't want to own one.
 
Salty Booger

Salty Booger

Royal Crown Cola (RC)
KAT-KAT said:
Well, using America as an example, I don't consider the political systems as right now as a permanent solution. They're revealing their brokenness as we speak.
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Perhaps I should have placed this in the politics forum. (but I agree with you on this point.)
 
MNoBody

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
so the trend currently is going 2 ways simultaneously
this is one depiction [a and b]
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Secret Chief

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
Burgeoning human population. Increasing food and water shortages. Global warming and destrucive climate change. Pollution. The sixth great extinction. Destruction of the biospere. Global corporate totalitarianism allowing the top 1% to become even more obscenely rich at the expense of the 99%.
We're going to hell in a hand cart.
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
We're finally going to have to face our own insane greed and ego (selfish stupidity and willful ignorance) or we're going to destroy ourselves. This isn't because of the internet. It's because of science in general. The internet is just making it more and more apparent that our wisdom is not increasing as our functionality is increasing. And that's going to lead to a catastrophic disaster for us if we don't do something about it, soon.
 
Brian2

Brian2

Veteran Member
Salty Booger said:
Never before has the world been more connected than it is today. We can openly discuss issues with others who are possibly miles away or even on the other side of the Globe. The world is connected, or nearly connected (some people still watch television or use Facebook and twitter.)

With this new era of information and a growing online community, how will we evolve? Political, economic and social norms are falling over the edge. Are we heading for a revolution, and if so, will it be peaceful or violent?
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Rulers don't want to give up power. It would be good if things evolved with a new generation with different ideas but I think violence would be needed to make real change. There will always be those who disagree and the whole world system is set up to run in a certain way and with certain priorities. Money and power is a huge part of the system we inherited and are stuck in to a large extent.
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Salty Booger said:
Never before has the world been more connected than it is today. We can openly discuss issues with others who are possibly miles away or even on the other side of the Globe. The world is connected, or nearly connected (some people still watch television or use Facebook and twitter.)

With this new era of information and a growing online community, how will we evolve? Political, economic and social norms are falling over the edge. Are we heading for a revolution, and if so, will it be peaceful or violent?
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I think the revolution is already here and has quietly been taking over the world for 20 or 30 years. The information revolution.
 
Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

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Salty Booger said:
Never before has the world been more connected than it is today. We can openly discuss issues with others who are possibly miles away or even on the other side of the Globe. The world is connected, or nearly connected (some people still watch television or use Facebook and twitter.)
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Yes. To me I only add that listening is actually the transformative power of the internet. We have the ability to listen to what other people say. I've seen this in action, particularly with certain people in forums who read posts. The internet is half of it and the half is that there some talented individuals who like to read more than they write.

When a topic goes into areas where people disagree or feel strongly or when the topic is charged then there fewer readers than commenters, and the internet then fails to have as much impact as it could.

Sometimes with a good facilitator you can change this and get people into a mode where they are trying to understand rather than to be understood or to do both, but its not automatic. Newspapers used to act as facilitators in this way facilitating conversations in the public sphere. They had editors and letters to the editor and certain standards of dispassionate reporting. The internet doesn't have this. It only has like buttons, shares, search engine results and tags.

Salty Booger said:
With this new era of information and a growing online community, how will we evolve? Political, economic and social norms are falling over the edge. Are we heading for a revolution, and if so, will it be peaceful or violent?
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When I think of revolution I think of the pictures of the French Revolution. I wonder if the killing was truly necessary to accomplish a clean break from the past and don't know the answer. Maybe it was? I like French influences on my own country. Its a neat place, very different from other places. I wouldn't want a bloody revolution though.
 
chinu

chinu

chinu
Salty Booger said:
Never before has the world been more connected than it is today. We can openly discuss issues with others who are possibly miles away or even on the other side of the Globe. The world is connected, or nearly connected (some people still watch television or use Facebook and twitter.)

With this new era of information and a growing online community, how will we evolve? Political, economic and social norms are falling over the edge. Are we heading for a revolution, and if so, will it be peaceful or violent?
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Long time back there was no electricity. Somebody discovered -- people started using. Thereafter, people came to know that electricity can be used for both (Good & Bad) purposes. For example: doctors used electricity for treating patients, vice verse it was also used by someone to kill another person. Electricity brought both peaceful or violent matters between us.

Of course, we are heading towards a big revolution, but, every new change brings both good and bad -- It will depend on the type of person using the facility. So, if the question is -- will internet revolution be peaceful, or violent. I'll say -- it will bring both, because good and bad persons exists in every/all eras.
 
Secret Chief

Secret Chief

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Apparently there needs be only 3.5% of a country's population "rise up" for a "successful" revolution. Not 3.5% of the hoi polloi, but people in key groups, such as the police, as leaders of it or at least not to impede it.
 
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