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Online petition to have Subramanian Swamy and Rajiv Malhotra at Oxford

Kalibhakta

Jai Maha Kali Ma!
Well, Aupmanyav, it is kind of like this, for the former, anyway.

Both religions are similar in the way of how Martyrdom works. Both religions respect and honor their martyrs, and not in the diseased way terrorists do. Sikhs "celebrate" (It's more of a remembrance of morning, really) Ashura along side the Shia because they remember their own dead by the hands of the wicked in much the same way.

Even the Hindus and Africans do so. In the Caribbeans, the Black slaves and marginalized Hindus both caught onto the observance because they sympathized with Imam Husseiin and his plight, and saw themselves in his struggle for truth and divine justice. The English banned it, horrified at this solidarity. They failed to destroy it.

There is a whole sub-caste of Brahmins in India who said their founder fought with Imam Hussein and his sons died at the Battle of Karbala. The Brahmin begged for mercy for his idolatry, and the Imam said there was no need for such forgiveness, because the way he was, fighting for truth, was Good enough in his eyes. They are devoutly Hindu, but are proud of their association with him

I respect whoever loves God/The Truth and is noble. People of any religion who love god more then their own ego will do the same.(Mutual respect, even if in acknowledgment their religions are incompatible .)

The later is Geo-Political stuff is that the idea of however flawed Iran is, Saudi-Pakistani interests hurt America and India more then Iran ever could.

Sorry for the massive derail.
 
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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
The petitioners argued that while persons with “morally repugnant views” have a right to express themselves, “we do not feel we have a duty to invite persons to air them at a platform which bears respect.” source
I hope these people remain in UK or wherever want to. Tomorrow's India may not be interested in them.
 

Poeticus

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I hope these people remain in UK or wherever want to. Tomorrow's India may not be interested in them.
It'd be funny as hell if the same academics and students were to do an event in India and it was barred on grounds that while those two groups with "morally repugnant views [have a right to express themselves], we do not feel we have a duty to invite persons to air them at a platform which bears respect".
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
.. would it be crazy for India to court Iran? Iran is not a democratic state, but India and Iran have common foes and I don't think they want "in" India.
Apart from the historical connections, Iran, as you know, is important for oil and political reasons, just as India is important for Iran. During the sanctions, we still got oil from Iran. US made an exception for India. I do not think Iran is very happy with Pakistan with Shias dying every day in violence. It needs two hands to clap. I am a bit surprised why Iran does not act against it.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
It'd be funny as hell if the same academics and students were to do an event in India and it was barred on grounds that while those two groups with "morally repugnant views [have a right to express themselves], we do not feel we have a duty to invite persons to air them at a platform which bears respect".
The Indian fifth column.
 

Kalibhakta

Jai Maha Kali Ma!
Apart from the historical connections, Iran, as you know, is important for oil and political reasons, just as India is important for Iran. During the sanctions, we still got oil from Iran. US made an exception for India. I do not think Iran is very happy with Pakistan with Shias dying every day in violence. It needs two hands to clap. I am a bit surprised why Iran does not act against it.
Pakistan has nukes. Iran doesn't It is good then that India has them as a counterbalance.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Nukes are just for deterrent and show. Nobody can use them. None in the present world, nowhere. Indian nukes are to counter-balance those with China and Pakistan. It is a necessity for us.
 
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