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Only Trump Can Fix It!

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Watching (with great distaste) Trump's rally in Madison Square Garden -- where 4 hours in, he still hasn't shown up. Flipping boring!

But couldn't help noticing the slogan all over everything: "Trump Will Fix It." What?!?!?

Donald Trump's career as a businessman is a litany of successes (not very many) and failures, some of which underscore significant issues with his approach to risk, management, and ethics. For example:

After receiving over $400 million from his father, Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy six times, each time related to his casinos and hotel businesses. Sure, bankruptcy can be a legitimate tool for restructuring, but Trump's repeated use of it is surely evidence of risky over-leverage. He has always borrowed heavily and expanded aggressively, so in the end his ventures couldn't withstand financial downturns,. The result? Huge losses for investors and creditors, even as Trump himself often emerged relatively unscathed. Was he thinking of others, or himself? Will he think of you, or himself?

Trump’s companies consistently failed to pay contractors and small businesses for their work. Lawsuits and settlements document claims that contractors, from carpenters to architects, were either underpaid or not paid at all for their services, creating financial stress for small businesses that counted on timely payment. What do you think of his ethics when he so frequently disregards his ethical obligation to honor business agreements?

Trump University claimed to teach people real estate success strategies. The program was not an accredited university, and students paid thousands of dollars in fees. A series of lawsuits alleged that the university’s promises were misleading, with high-pressure sales tactics used on students who often ended up disappointed. Trump settled a class-action lawsuit for $25 million without admitting wrongdoing, but the case painted a damning picture of the enterprise as exploitative. Ethical business man?

Trump's businesses have been involved in literally thousands of lawsuits, with many alleging unethical practices. The high number of legal cases show a contentious business style that often leaves former partners, employees, and customers dissatisfied -- and uncompensated. While litigation is sometimes inevitable in business, the volume and nature of these cases underscore questions about the ethical conduct of his ventures.

Much of Trump’s business success derives from branding rather than innovation or industry expertise. His business model increasingly relied on licensing his name, often for real estate projects he did not own or manage. Sure this was profitable, but it depends heavily on maintaining a positive personal brand image, rather than delivering value through the underlying business activities themselves. And, hardly surprising, it has resulted in failed branding ventures, like Trump Steaks and Trump Vodka, where the products did not meet market expectations. Any consumer knows that the name doesn't mean a thing if the quality is poor.

Several of Trump's ventures have raised questions about ethics and legal standards. For example, his charitable foundation was dissolved after an investigation found it had engaged in self-dealing—using funds from the nonprofit for personal or business expenses rather than charitable purposes. I can't understand MAGA's lack of skepticism about his commitment to ethical business practices.

Okay, but he was a TV star with his show, The Apprentice. But that show wasn't really Trump -- it was very highly scripted by a production team labouring hard to disguise their star's eternal confusion and incompetnce. "Our job was to reverse-engineer the show and to make him not look like a complete moron," one member of the production team said.

And his marriages fail -- repeatedly -- mostly because he can't even commit to those and keep his sex life at home where it belongs.

Even the inflation that his supporters hate so much, and blame solely on Biden, has been shown so often to the result of his terrible handling of the pandemic, the consequent need for billions in support payments to workers in hundreds of job categories, and ruptured supply lines. (And that inflation has, slowly, I grant, been wrestled under control by Biden's administration.)

This man ruins everything he touches -- and his MAGA supporters somehow think that "Only Trump Can Fix It," meaning, one supposes, everything.

Now, does anyone want to ask me what I think of the intelligence and discernment of MAGAs? Please don't ask -- I might have to break some Forum rules in answering.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I never knew that you were a masochist. I checked out the live video and it has been going for four hours and he has not spoken yet. Though amazingly I saw that Cucker Tarlson was one of the guest speakers. I guess that the MAGA crowd has never heard of the "Tucker Carlson defense" or else they did not understand it.

On a side note, Cucker lost out on an award today, he was nominated but did not win the highly prized Golden Crocoduck award for breaking of the Ninth Commandment. He was the first nominee covered, so you do not have to watch much of this video at all:

 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Watching (with great distaste) Trump's rally in Madison Square Garden -- where 4 hours in, he still hasn't shown up. Flipping boring!
Did you see that despicable racist comedian?

Really, I know people on the right are going to roll their eyes and an other lefty calling things racist. Say we can't take a joke. But this really was beyond the pale.

“There’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now yeah I think it’s called Puerto Rico.”

Calling Puerto Rico garbage?

“These Latinos they love making babies too just know that they do they do there’s no pulling out they don’t do that they come inside just like they did to our country.”

Disgusting, racist. "These Latinos"!!! "Our Country"!!!

You know he means white people when he says "Our Country". He does not accept the fact that Latinos and other ethnic groups have just as much claim to their country as he does.

He mocks Black people, he makes anti-semantic comments, totally disgusting.

Watch it if you can. But this is clearly a hate rally.






And btw, while this hate is going on in New York, Kamala Harris Harris visits Puerto Rican restaurant. She talks about her policy for Puerto Rico, and she talks about lifting people up, not putting them down. Quite the contrast!

 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Did you see that despicable racist comedian?

Really, I know people on the right are going to roll their eyes and an other lefty calling things racist. Say we can't take a joke. But this really was beyond the pale.

“There’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now yeah I think it’s called Puerto Rico.”

Calling Puerto Rico garbage?

“These Latinos they love making babies too just know that they do they do there’s no pulling out they don’t do that they come inside just like they did to our country.”

Disgusting, racist. "These Latinos"!!! "Our Country"!!!

You know he means white people when he says "Our Country". He does not accept the fact that Latinos and other ethnic groups have just as much claim to their country as he does.

He mocks Black people, he makes anti-semantic comments, totally disgusting.

Watch it if you can. But this is clearly a hate rally.






And btw, while this hate is going on in New York, Kamala Harris Harris visits Puerto Rican restaurant. She talks about her policy for Puerto Rico, and she talks about lifting people up, not putting them down. Quite the contrast!

He is not getting many laughs yet, amazing racism and a true lack of a sense of humor. I love it when the Republicans self destruct.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Did you see that despicable racist comedian?

Really, I know people on the right are going to roll their eyes and an other lefty calling things racist. Say we can't take a joke. But this really was beyond the pale.

“There’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now yeah I think it’s called Puerto Rico.”

Calling Puerto Rico garbage?

“These Latinos they love making babies too just know that they do they do there’s no pulling out they don’t do that they come inside just like they did to our country.”

Disgusting, racist. "These Latinos"!!! "Our Country"!!!

You know he means white people when he says "Our Country". He does not accept the fact that Latinos and other ethnic groups have just as much claim to their country as he does.

He mocks Black people, he makes anti-semantic comments, totally disgusting.

Watch it if you can. But this is clearly a hate rally.






And btw, while this hate is going on in New York, Kamala Harris Harris visits Puerto Rican restaurant. She talks about her policy for Puerto Rico, and she talks about lifting people up, not putting them down. Quite the contrast!

Oh, gosh, oh golly! Racism in a Trump rally?!? Surely that must be a mis-print! :eek:
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
He is not getting many laughs yet, amazing racism and a true lack of a sense of humor. I love it when the Republicans self destruct.
Not only that, but the disgusting sexual inuendos! WTF is this doing in a political rally for President?

"These Latinos, too, they love making babies -- just know that. They do, they do. There's no pullin' out. They don't do that -- they come inside, just like they did to our country."

I mean, come on, people!

I'll tell you what -- I hope and pray that his vile words fill the media for the next 8 days!
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
So, finally, after more than 5 hours, the Orange Gasbag speaks.

And so, for his first assertion: "I'm going to end inflation."

Simple enough promise, but he doesn't say how he'll do it? I mean, American Republicans certainly don't want wage and price controls -- that's gotta be off the play list.

So my question is this, for any Trump supporter who cares to answer: "How will he "end inflation? What's the mechanism or policy that he will use to ensure that no more prices go up in a free market?"

Just answer that one for now. We' can leave the rest of the questions (they're very similar anyway) for later.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
So, finally, after more than 5 hours, the Orange Gasbag speaks.

And so, for his first assertion: "I'm going to end inflation."

Simple enough promise, but he doesn't say how he'll do it? I mean, American Republicans certainly don't want wage and price controls -- that's gotta be off the play list.

So my question is this, for any Trump supporter who cares to answer: "How will he "end inflation? What's the mechanism or policy that he will use to ensure that no more prices go up in a free market?"

Just answer that one for now. We' can leave the rest of the questions (they're very similar anyway) for later.
This he might actually accomplish if he in fact implements his tariffs and tanks the economy, Tariffs will cause prices to rise so people will buy less, buying less will cause lack of work which will cause further decreased income and so in order to sell anything you will have to lower prices but then you won't be able to pay off the loans you got for that production you no longer need and so on.

It is generally not a good thing, but called a recession where the middle and lower classes get laid off.

But he might actually do it.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
So, finally, after more than 5 hours, the Orange Gasbag speaks.

And so, for his first assertion: "I'm going to end inflation."

Simple enough promise, but he doesn't say how he'll do it? I mean, American Republicans certainly don't want wage and price controls -- that's gotta be off the play list.

So my question is this, for any Trump supporter who cares to answer: "How will he "end inflation? What's the mechanism or policy that he will use to ensure that no more prices go up in a free market?"

Just answer that one for now. We' can leave the rest of the questions (they're very similar anyway) for later.
This he might actually accomplish if he in fact implements his tariffs and tanks the economy, Tariffs will cause prices to rise so people will buy less, buying less will cause lack of work which will cause further decreased income and so in order to sell anything you will have to lower prices but then you won't be able to pay off the loans you got for that production you no longer need and so on.

It is generally not a good thing, but called a recession where the middle and lower classes get laid off.

But he might actually do it.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
So, finally, after more than 5 hours, the Orange Gasbag speaks.

And so, for his first assertion: "I'm going to end inflation."

Simple enough promise, but he doesn't say how he'll do it? I mean, American Republicans certainly don't want wage and price controls -- that's gotta be off the play list.

So my question is this, for any Trump supporter who cares to answer: "How will he "end inflation? What's the mechanism or policy that he will use to ensure that no more prices go up in a free market?"

Just answer that one for now. We' can leave the rest of the questions (they're very similar anyway) for later.
Even worse, Biden has already brought inflation to the point where it is almost at the optimum level. If (worst case scenario) it is down to two percent by inauguration day he can just declare that he did it. He would finally admit or explain that ending inflation does not mean going back to the old prices. Ideally he never gets a chance.
 
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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I'm telling everybody, if you can spend a large portion of life listening to the people Trump chose to speak for him at this even in MSG, you will be horrified beyond your wildest imaginings. Some of it is completely demented. The disgraced Rudy Giuliani was by no means the worst of them -- and he was by no means better than awful!

This rally is making the Nazi rally at MSG in 1939 look almost sane! MAGAs, you are totally out of it, and you will destroy your country. Why would you want to do that? Really -- I want to know!
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I'm telling everybody, if you can spend a large portion of life listening to the people Trump chose to speak for him at this even in MSG, you will be horrified beyond your wildest imaginings. Some of it is completely demented. The disgraced Rudy Giuliani was by no means the worst of them -- and he was by no means better than awful!

This rally is making the Nazi rally at MSG in 1939 look almost sane! MAGAs, you are totally out of it, and you will destroy your country. Why would you want to do that? Really -- I want to know!
It is sadly like I have said. TDS is now an almost exclusive MAGA disease.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Watching (with great distaste) Trump's rally in Madison Square Garden -- where 4 hours in, he still hasn't shown up. Flipping boring!

But couldn't help noticing the slogan all over everything: "Trump Will Fix It." What?!?!?

Donald Trump's career as a businessman is a litany of successes (not very many) and failures, some of which underscore significant issues with his approach to risk, management, and ethics. For example:

After receiving over $400 million from his father, Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy six times, each time related to his casinos and hotel businesses. Sure, bankruptcy can be a legitimate tool for restructuring, but Trump's repeated use of it is surely evidence of risky over-leverage. He has always borrowed heavily and expanded aggressively, so in the end his ventures couldn't withstand financial downturns,. The result? Huge losses for investors and creditors, even as Trump himself often emerged relatively unscathed. Was he thinking of others, or himself? Will he think of you, or himself?

Trump’s companies consistently failed to pay contractors and small businesses for their work. Lawsuits and settlements document claims that contractors, from carpenters to architects, were either underpaid or not paid at all for their services, creating financial stress for small businesses that counted on timely payment. What do you think of his ethics when he so frequently disregards his ethical obligation to honor business agreements?

Trump University claimed to teach people real estate success strategies. The program was not an accredited university, and students paid thousands of dollars in fees. A series of lawsuits alleged that the university’s promises were misleading, with high-pressure sales tactics used on students who often ended up disappointed. Trump settled a class-action lawsuit for $25 million without admitting wrongdoing, but the case painted a damning picture of the enterprise as exploitative. Ethical business man?

Trump's businesses have been involved in literally thousands of lawsuits, with many alleging unethical practices. The high number of legal cases show a contentious business style that often leaves former partners, employees, and customers dissatisfied -- and uncompensated. While litigation is sometimes inevitable in business, the volume and nature of these cases underscore questions about the ethical conduct of his ventures.

Much of Trump’s business success derives from branding rather than innovation or industry expertise. His business model increasingly relied on licensing his name, often for real estate projects he did not own or manage. Sure this was profitable, but it depends heavily on maintaining a positive personal brand image, rather than delivering value through the underlying business activities themselves. And, hardly surprising, it has resulted in failed branding ventures, like Trump Steaks and Trump Vodka, where the products did not meet market expectations. Any consumer knows that the name doesn't mean a thing if the quality is poor.

Several of Trump's ventures have raised questions about ethics and legal standards. For example, his charitable foundation was dissolved after an investigation found it had engaged in self-dealing—using funds from the nonprofit for personal or business expenses rather than charitable purposes. I can't understand MAGA's lack of skepticism about his commitment to ethical business practices.

Okay, but he was a TV star with his show, The Apprentice. But that show wasn't really Trump -- it was very highly scripted by a production team labouring hard to disguise their star's eternal confusion and incompetnce. "Our job was to reverse-engineer the show and to make him not look like a complete moron," one member of the production team said.

And his marriages fail -- repeatedly -- mostly because he can't even commit to those and keep his sex life at home where it belongs.

Even the inflation that his supporters hate so much, and blame solely on Biden, has been shown so often to the result of his terrible handling of the pandemic, the consequent need for billions in support payments to workers in hundreds of job categories, and ruptured supply lines. (And that inflation has, slowly, I grant, been wrestled under control by Biden's administration.)

This man ruins everything he touches -- and his MAGA supporters somehow think that "Only Trump Can Fix It," meaning, one supposes, everything.

Now, does anyone want to ask me what I think of the intelligence and discernment of MAGAs? Please don't ask -- I might have to break some Forum rules in answering.
Lol so desperate.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
Watch it if you can. But this is clearly a hate rally.
I see no reason to watch such things that will drag me down psychologically. Trump is doing a terrible job campaigning, yet he has been making gains in the polls. That's what is most disturbing. Granted Harris is not a great campaigner, but Trump is doing a terrible job. He is showing signs of cognitive decline, making vicious comments, etc.

The American people are more to blame than anyone if Trump is elected. Something is drastically wrong with the American people.

edit: This is so bad that that something has to be done to change how we elect people politicians, and educate voters.
 
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Pogo

Well-Known Member
I see no reason to watch such things that will drag me down psychologically. Trump is doing a terrible job campaigning, yet he has been making gains in the polls. That's what is most disturbing. Granted Harris is not a great campaigner, but Trump is doing a terrible job. He is showing signs of cognitive decline, making vicious comments, etc.

The American people are more to blame than anyone if Trump is elected. Something is drastically wrong with the American people.

edit: This is so bad that that something has to be done to change how we elect people politicians, and educate voters.
Unfortunately, he is not doing a terrible job at his intended purpose which is egging on those who feel disaffected in this modern world, He finds specious arguments to generate emotions about others getting more than some and casting them as bad and himself as the saviour. He make ridiculous promises, but hey, he is on their side. His criminality is and disregard for the rules of society is just proof that they have a champion.

It is not his strategy that is terrible, but the fact that he has such a willing audience.
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
I see no reason to watch such things that will drag me down psychologically. Trump is doing a terrible job campaigning, yet he has been making gains in the polls. That's what is most disturbing. Granted Harris is not a great campaigner, but Trump is doing a terrible job. He is showing signs of cognitive decline, making vicious comments, etc.

The American people are more to blame than anyone if Trump is elected. Something is drastically wrong with the American people.

edit: This is so bad that that something has to be done to change how we elect people politicians, and educate voters.
To be fair, such a candidate is only to be expected from within a country that has a population of only 300,000,000.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Ain't it rich. MAGA wants to prevent felons from voting after they have done their time, but adore their presidential candidate who is a felon.

What a screwed up mess when felons can't vote but they can be president.
 
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