Openly gay and Catholic

[Ashoka]

Homosexuals are under the same imminent wrath.

Doesn't it get tiring living in fear of a wrathful deity all the time? Why would you want to serve such a hateful, wrathful being?

 

[DNB]

I already did my duty and then I finally jumped ship on discussing homosexuality, as it is a lost cause. People are going to believe what they want to believe as can be seen on this thread with 5553 posts:

Homosexuality and religious.

...yes, you are correct - those that support homosexuality never seem to understand , on any level, the contrarian position.

 

[Trailblazer]

...yes, you are correct - those that support homosexuality never seem to understand , on any level, the contrarian position.

No, they certainly don't understand, yet they expect us to understand their position...
That's called a double standard.

 

[DNB]

Did you just now notice that it was different? We've been conversing for a few days now. Anyhow, if you're interested, I posted a journal post. But anyway that's off topic. And your second sentence is just laughable.

As to your other posts on this thread, DNB, you, along with many other "Christians" in this world, and the hatred you spew in the name of a bogeyman, is a reason why I want absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. You think you're on the right side, but anyone with two eyes and two ears can see that what you do is evil and wrong. You demonize an entire group of people just because a book tells you to. Imagine living your life hating a group of people who are different from you. You should be ashamed. But you're not. You're deluded into thinking what you're doing is "holy."

Again, I'm 57 years old, and have lived a life that I am rarely proud of, for I have seen the destruction, to myself and others, that my former behaviour has caused - and I'm talking about heterosexual depravity..
We all sin and have many things to be ashamed of - the difference between you and I, Ashoka, is that I do not attempt to glorify my perverted thinking and ways, whereas you, and the rest of the lgbtq supporters, do exactly that - neither one of you can tell the difference between right and wrong.

 

[DNB]

Not when you strut around calling those who disagree with you "perverts".

Homosexuality is a patent perversion, ...as is 99% of the heterosexual relationships out there - those who perform lewd and lascivious acts with the opposite sex.
No difference, everyone is subject to judgement - just because one is hetero, doesn't mean that I hold them any less accountable as I do the homosexuals.

 

[DNB]

Then shame on you. All the shame. Because what you are doing here is not healthy, for neither yourself nor those around you. You are being hateful and judgmental, and openly slandering people on this forum, indirectly or no. Your beliefs, and your post-1940's translation of a book do not supersede others' right to live free of your horrible judgement.

So what's your ultimate conclusion then: that everything is permissible as long as one cannot quantify the damage?

 

[DNB]

Doesn't it get tiring living in fear of a wrathful deity all the time? Why would you want to serve such a hateful, wrathful being?

All that He asks is that we behave good to one another, and warn those heading for disaster - how in the world do you take offense to that?

 

[DNB]

No, they certainly don't understand, yet they expect us to understand their position...
That's called a double standard.

True, ...but, worse, an agenda - honestly, lgtbq proponents are some of the worst characters out there: aggressive, judgmental, vindictive, abusive, etc.... certifiably so! To the point that I believe that there defense of homosexuality is just a convenient way to make them appear compassionate, ...seriously.

 

[Trailblazer]

True, ...but, worse, an agenda - honestly, lgtbq proponents are some of the worst characters out there: aggressive, judgmental, vindictive, abusive, etc.... certifiably so! To the point that I believe that there defense of homosexuality is just a convenient way to make them appear compassionate, ...seriously.

And they call religious people judgmental, as they are judging us... That is called hypocrisy.

 

[Subduction Zone]

True, ...but, worse, an agenda - honestly, lgtbq proponents are some of the worst characters out there: aggressive, judgmental, vindictive, abusive, etc.... certifiably so! To the point that I believe that there defense of homosexuality is just a convenient way to make them appear compassionate, ...seriously.

Sounds like the pot calling the silverware black.

 

[Trailblazer]

Sounds like the pot calling the silverware black.

It cuts both ways.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And they call religious people judgmental, as they are judging us... That is called hypocrisy.

No, When religious people are shown to be hypocrites it is perfectly fine to call them out for it. You are trying to condemn a whole class of people. That is very low behavior. Just because they do not follow your book of myths is not an excuse to attack them. If you want to find something wrong with LGBQ people you need something a lot stronger than that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It cuts both ways.

Not in this case. For centuries those with religious beliefs have attacked gays and others. Now it appears that you are angry only because they want and deserve the same rights that you have.

 

[DNB]

And they call religious people judgmental, as they are judging us... That is called hypocrisy.

Yes, it's entirely ironic!!!

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Yeah, it's really weird that all these Christians (well, those like him) are so obsessed with who we're having sex with...

I've always thought the same thing, even during the thirty years I was a devout Christian myself. I suppose I'll never understand why some Christians appear to be concerned or obsessed with the love lives of homosexuals. To be honest, I find that very disturbing.

As far as I'm concerned, what two consenting adults do behind closed doors in their bedroom is none of my business, whether the couple is gay or straight. Personally, I think these Christians should be more concerned about the plank in their own eye before they worry about the speck of dust in the eye of a gay person. Simply put, they ought to mind their own business and be more concerned with the "sexual sins" that afflict their own churches, such as the sex scandals in the Catholic Church and Southern Baptist churches.

 

[Trailblazer]

No, When religious people are shown to be hypocrites it is perfectly fine to call them out for it. You are trying to condemn a whole class of people.

So are you. You are trying to condemn all the religious people who disagree with you.
That is why I said it cuts both ways, each side condemning the other side.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So are you. You are trying to condemn all the religious people who disagree with you.
That is why I said it cuts both ways, each side condemning the other side.

There is a huge difference. I only call out those that attack others. You can disagree, but it is best to keep those false beliefs to yourself. If someone was complaining about African Americans and missing the days of slavery I would go after that person too.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yes, it's entirely ironic!!!

It is even more ironic when they can't see it what they are doing.

 

[Trailblazer]

There is a huge difference. I only call out those that attack others.

But you don't call out those who attack the religious. Practically the entire thread Homosexuality and religious was an attack on the Baha'is because of what the Baha'i Writings say about homosexuality. Why is it okay to attack all the members of a religion just because they disagree with you?

 

[Trailblazer]

You can disagree, but it is best to keep those false beliefs to yourself.

Why can't I say the same thing? What makes your beliefs true and my beliefs false?