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I'm in favor of sibling marriage. My husband and I are both siblings. My father isn't a sibling, but my mother is.
Wait, is your mother your sister and your father your brother? Then what does that make you? Their niece?
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I'm in favor of sibling marriage. My husband and I are both siblings. My father isn't a sibling, but my mother is.
no... he's using siblings marriage differently... as in I have a sibling and I'm marriedWait, is your mother your sister and your father your brother? Then what does that make you? Their niece?
I saw ninerbuff's thread and decided to make a more interesting and way more controversial thread. I'm arguing that for the same reasons we should accept gay marriages/homosexuality we should allow sibling marriage/relationships.
I don't get what you mean by that.By the gods, not this lameness again.
Did you really need to unbury this long past debunked garbage?
Can't agree with you here. Research does show that inbreeding results in many more complications of child birth defects.I saw ninerbuff's thread and decided to make a more interesting and way more controversial thread. I'm arguing that for the same reasons we should accept gay marriages/homosexuality we should allow sibling marriage/relationships.
What do you have in mind by "relationships," going out to a movie, forming a business partnership, or having sex? I say let any mentally competent adult marry any other competent adult, and if there's a chance that an adversed pregnancy might result then adequate means of preventing it have to be taken.I saw ninerbuff's thread and decided to make a more interesting and way more controversial thread. I'm arguing that for the same reasons we should accept gay marriages/homosexuality we should allow sibling marriage/relationships.
You're right. I'm just stating my feelings on the subject. The great thing about an opinion is, it doesn't need to be based on any logical reasoning.Ultimately, this argument sounds very much like the arguments against gay marriage. Based on emotional appeals, personal experience, and lacking any real logical substance.
The only fallacious argument here, is your assumption that I want to impose my ideas on other people. I don't want to prevent people from having consensual incestuous relationships but I sure as hell don't have to approve of it.Because you've define love between sibling as something no one would accept anymore than anyone would accept "I think real love between men doesn't allow for sexual relationships and thus gay sex is wrong". That's fallacious reasoning because not everyone accepts your definition of love and you shouldn't force anyone to even if you find it repulsing relative to your relationships with your siblings.
What about gay sibling relationshipsCan't agree with you here. Research does show that inbreeding results in many more complications of child birth defects.
... what about gay sibling relationships... not everyone thinks are disgusted by it... hence why there exist sibling relationships.I don't know. Nearly everyone I have spoken to and whatever are kind of disgusted by that sort of thing between their own siblings and/or parents. I don't think it is the same thing as gay relationships at all; mostly because if a brother and sister have children, there is a good chance that their offspring will be deformed in some way.
Thank you... that was the exact point I was trying to make.What do you have in mind by "relationships," going out to a movie, forming a business partnership, or having sex? I say let any mentally competent adult marry any other competent adult, and if there's a chance that an adversed pregnancy might result then adequate means of preventing it have to be taken.
When when you want others to respect your opinion it should be based on logical reasoning.You're right. I'm just stating my feelings on the subject. The great thing about an opinion is, it doesn't need to be based on any logical reasoning.
The only fallacious argument here, is your assumption that I want to impose my ideas on other people. I don't want to prevent people from having consensual incestuous relationships but I sure as hell don't have to approve of it.
Well then do you support their right to do it even if you disprove?
This makes me feel good since I got you to admit that you support the rights of people to have sibling marriages.I support a persons right to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't negatively affect the people around them. In this case, yes I do.
This makes me feel good since I got you to admit that you support the rights of people to have sibling marriages.
Hmm, well since child bearing isn't possible, then I guess I have no problem with it.What about gay sibling relationships
I don't get what you mean by that.
I was quite clear.
This "argument" was raised several years ago and amde the rounds of quite a few forums.
This non sequitur argument fallacy intended to disparage the fight for Equality of Marriage for the GLBT community.
It is merely a distraction from the simple fact that there is no valid reason to deny gays their Civil Right to marry any consenting adult they wish.
The OP's point is that there is also no valid reason to deny incestual relationships a right to marry a consenting sibling/cousin/whatever, though.
It has nothing to do with homosexual marriage; it's an entirely different subject. The problem only arises when anti-gay activists liken homosexuality to incest because they see both as disgusting.
Maybe now we can all stop and know what it feels like to walk in their shoes when we think about how utterly revolting it is to most of us to think of siblings gettin' it on. But it's ultimately none of our business just the same (with the exception of fertile sibling relationships, which constitutes genetic malevolence).
I saw ninerbuff's thread and decided to make a more interesting and way more controversial thread. I'm arguing that for the same reasons we should accept gay marriages/homosexuality we should allow sibling marriage/relationships.
Edit: I think the consensius is that sibling marriage is bad because of the potential problems with birth defects... then what about gay sibling marriage/relationships. If you allow that then your discriminating against sexual preference (and gender). And also what about the non-sibling couples that both have genetic traits are recessive that if the child gets both genes, it's detrimental to the child.
Ms. Meow, you'e a bright lass.
What, exactly, do you think this thread is about?
Thank you for understanding my argument... My argument is NOT an reductio ad absurdum.The OP's point is that there is also no valid reason to deny incestual relationships a right to marry a consenting sibling/cousin/whatever, though.
It has nothing to do with homosexual marriage; it's an entirely different subject. The problem only arises when anti-gay activists liken homosexuality to incest because they see both as disgusting.
Maybe now we can all stop and know what it feels like to walk in their shoes when we think about how utterly revolting it is to most of us to think of siblings gettin' it on. But it's ultimately none of our business just the same (with the exception of fertile sibling relationships, which constitutes genetic malevolence).