sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Opium masks symptoms. Faith helps us face our symptoms.
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Opium of the people
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Spiderman
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It can still be a pain reliever, and a crutch for the weak and helpless...
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
True. Opioids are useful ... to a point. But there’s a very slippery slope between legit pain management and physical/emotional addiction. The good thing about religion is that it not only comforts the afflicted, it also serves to afflict the comfortable to keep us growing rather than stagnating in our own pathology.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
The same way one could say "No-Religion is the opium of the people"."Religion is the opium of the people" is one of the most frequently paraphrased statements of German philosopher and economist Karl Marx. It was translated from the German original, "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes" and is often rendered as "religion... is the opiate of the masses."
The full quote from Karl Marx translates as: "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people". Often quoted only in part, the interpretation of the metaphor in its context has received much less attention.[1]
Opium of the people - Wikipedia
So, you heard me state a longing for cancer and death... that was because I went through a two week period without this "opium of the people/masses".
It was hell... I lost faith for two weeks, stopped burning incense and candles, stopped praying, relapsed on porn (ick...yuck!
), had no energy for anything, and it was hell.
I don't know how people survive without this drug...at one time I enjoyed video games, music, sex (with sluts), movies, socializing, alcohol, drugs, and relationships, and had no need for faith.
Now, I have lost all interest in those activities, and in fact they have become bitter, unenjoyable, or annoying.
Ive reached this new phase where faith is absolutely essential. For whatever reason.
I didn't know how essential it was till I lost it.
All I could do without it is sleep, lay around, and long for death...there was literally nothing that was enjoyable...
If you have no need for faith, that is understandable, cos I went through that...but now, holy s***, am I amazed at how impossible life is without it (for some of us).
Not sure why I lost the faith, just couldn't really pray...there was just no faith there, and so prayer becomes quite difficult (impossible) without faith.
And it literally left me completely incapacitated...has anyone experienced this?
Perhaps Religion is "the opium of the people"... for some reason that drug has become so necessary, that without it, everything is a joyless, living hell, where nothing is enjoyable, and the only desire is to cease to exist, and passionate hatred for life!
Seriously, while in that funk, the most beautiful wealthy woman could have come on to me, told me i was the sexiest thing she ever saw, wined and dined me, taken me out on a yacht, treated me like her helpless child, taken me to live in a mansion,...whatever..., and I would have been unhappy and thought "she and i are just going to get ugly and die, and take none of this with us. I just want to hurry up and die, to get the inevitable over with"
I got the faith back this evening...phew! I hope I don't lose my opium again!
Is this "opium" a healthy addiction?
Right, please?
Regards
Omg, I didn’t know their legs could break like that
I’m sad for a spider’s death. I’m evolving lol
I’m sad for a spider’s death. I’m evolving lol
Ya know @Deidre...years ago, when I was homeless, I had a Tarantula named Deidre
Some black guy was holding her and dropped her on the sidewalk...she broke a leg and bled to death
I used to let everybody hold my spiders to overcome arachnophobia...It is great but I stopped doing that, and now my spideys live a lot longer...
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Oh, I'm so proud of you baybee Deidre!!!Omg, I didn’t know their legs could break like that
I’m sad for a spider’s death. I’m evolving lol
Yeah...cuz when a spider dies, then all the insects that eat crops, mosquitos, and flies and pests, that the spider would have eaten, well they live and reproduce, and become a nuisance...
Well, technically, I didn't see Deidre die...what happened is she would not stop bleeding, then she did the death curl with her legs, and I gave her to this interesting girl with piercings and tattoos who cares for sick spiders better than I know how...but im almost positive she died!
Jeff, that guy who let me stay at his yacht, started crying about poor Deidre, and he didn't even like spiders... I can't remember what kind of turantula she was, but she went through so much when I was on the streets...she scaled so many walls, traveled so many places, was held by so many people, helped so many people overcome the phobia, it was sad to lose her..
Plus, she had the most beautiful name!
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Spiderman
Veteran Member
Yes,
But sometimes you aren't the most coherent poster... please...regards...
Is English your first language?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
if I may.....a sharp critique...."Religion is the opium of the people" is one of the most frequently paraphrased statements of German philosopher and economist Karl Marx. It was translated from the German original, "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes" and is often rendered as "religion... is the opiate of the masses."
The full quote from Karl Marx translates as: "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people". Often quoted only in part, the interpretation of the metaphor in its context has received much less attention.[1]
Opium of the people - Wikipedia
So, you heard me state a longing for cancer and death... that was because I went through a two week period without this "opium of the people/masses".
It was hell
I don't know how people survive without this drug...at one time I enjoyed video games, music, sex (with sluts), movies, socializing, alcohol, drugs, and relationships, and had no need for faith.
Now, I have lost all interest in those activities, and in fact they have become bitter, unenjoyable, or annoying.
Ive reached this new phase where faith is absolutely essential. For whatever reason.
I didn't know how essential it was till I lost it.
All I could do without it is sleep, lay around, and long for death...there was literally nothing that was enjoyable...
If you have no need for faith, that is understandable, cos I went through that...but now, holy s***, am I amazed at how impossible life is without it (for some of us).
Not sure why I lost the faith, just couldn't really pray...there was just no faith there, and so prayer becomes quite difficult (impossible) without faith.
And it literally left me completely incapacitated...has anyone experienced this?
Perhaps Religion is "the opium of the people"... for some reason that drug has become so necessary, that without it, everything is a joyless, living hell, where nothing is enjoyable, and the only desire is to cease to exist, and passionate hatred for life!
Seriously, while in that funk, the most beautiful wealthy woman could have come on to me, told me i was the sexiest thing she ever saw, wined and dined me, taken me out on a yacht, treated me like her helpless child, taken me to live in a mansion,...whatever..., and I would have been unhappy and thought "she and i are just going to get ugly and die, and take none of this with us. I just want to hurry up and die, to get the inevitable over with"
I got the faith back this evening...phew! I hope I don't lose my opium again!
Is this "opium" a healthy addiction?
too much emotion
the author you quoted would seem driven by his thinking....his sense of logic
whatever that may be
your post is a brief discussion of a wandering......on your part
and you came about full circle in a short space of time
nothing wrong with that
and returning to your compass and sense of direction
is what we all must do
some days we are Moses
some days we are Cain in the land of Nod
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Nice posts from you lately!
I was gonna give you *smootches*...
But I know how much the touchy feely stuff creeps you out!
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Well, @Deidre
I've known you far longer than any other Internet friend.
It was fate! You are just the most loveable Inrernet buddy EVER! ( I know you don't like that word love though...)
But I still hope for an early death...then I can meet your grandma, and we can look out for our little Angel from heaven...
I've known you far longer than any other Internet friend.
It was fate! You are just the most loveable Inrernet buddy EVER!
( I know you don't like that word love though...)But I still hope for an early death...then I can meet your grandma, and we can look out for our little Angel from heaven...
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Yes,
But sometimes you aren't the most coherent poster... please...regards...
Is English your first language?
It is not.
What correction in the sentence "No-Religion is the opium of the people" one has to suggest, please?
Regards
Jumi
Well-Known Member
Opium is a painkiller with much potential for abuse. In that sense it's hard to disagree with Marx whether one supports religion(s) or is opposed to them. In today's world opium is mostly seen as a banned substance so the comparison might not open for many.
I think given the whole context it makes much more sense than as the one-liner that people are wont to quote. He believed that people took to religion to alleviate suffering instead of solving the problems that cause suffering in society.Karl Marx said:
Spiderman
Veteran Member
It was just that various posts from you indicated that English was not your first language... it's all good though!