I believe the record is Venus, which rotates once every 242 Earth days. Its day is longer than its year.
The problem is that in Genesis, the Sun and Moon are formed after Day and Night.
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Origin of life, Adam and the Dinosaurs
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I believe the record is Venus, which rotates once every 242 Earth days. Its day is longer than its year.
The problem is that in Genesis, the Sun and Moon are formed after Day and Night.
It comes from Scripture, A day is like a 1,000 years and 1,000 years is like a day. Combined with the scripture where God tells Adam, "in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die" . Adam lived to be 930 years old. Put it all together and everything makes sense. Adam was immortal before eating the fruit, and died 930 years after eating the fruit.
2 Peter 3:8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
Based on the actual dates given in the Bible. You can read the Bible and peice them together.
By "in the original" I assume that you mean "in Hebrew," where the term denotes 'heavens' or 'skies' (pl). Your problem?
He didn't leave much of a mark given that much time. Did he do anything noteworthy in those millions of years? Write a book, maybe, or build a tower?
No way, right?
You reminded me of this:
"Look around you. Drink deeply of the unspeakable beauty everywhere. Witness the unfathomable diversity and the incredible majesty of all things. Tap into to the delicate interconnectedness and amazing concinnity of the cosmos. Consider the profound mystery of being itself, and shudder. Are you going to tell me that you think that somebody could have whipped all this up from scratch in just six lousy days? No frigging way!" -anon.
shmogie
Well-Known Member
True, but it still wouldn't preclude an omnipotent being from stopping the rotation of the earth
If you assume omnipotence, then anything is possible. Now, is it consistent with the story of Genesis? In *that* story, God is certainly *not* omnipotent or omniscient.
siti
Well-Known Member
That's got to take the world record for delayed onset food poisoning!
arthra
Baha'i
My belief is that He has "published" new editions of the story.. One of which you can read at:
Bahá'í Reference Library - Some Answered Questions, Pages 122-126
Altfish
Veteran Member
Unfortunately, he hasn't hit a very big audience. He should have gone on Fox News to promote it.
Hey, whoa!!! I did NOT make such a statement! Why did you attribute that to me?!!!!!
Or I should ask: HOW??
The narrative is told from the perspective of a ground-based observer.
Grief, where else could that light have come from! It's just that, at first, before life appeared, there was so much dust and debris in the atmosphere, that no light could get through -- "it was dark" for someone observing on the ground -- and then, gradually, light (from the Sun and Moon) reached the ground. But still too much atmospheric debris hid the sources of the lights, i.e.., the distinct shapes of the Sun and Moon, until the atmosphere cleared enough in Day 4.
Interesting that Newton never considered this to be a 'problem' -- in fact, he said, "I study the Bible daily." What was the result? He concluded, "I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatsoever..."
Sounds like something George Carlin would have said!
A metaphor for what?
The objection here is that same as with the use of the word "allegory." A metaphors is "a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them"
With a metaphor, we have something that is representative of something else, and we know what that something else is. If we're saving for a rainy day, we're saving for a time when things are not as good, assuming that we like sunny days better than rainy ones.
How about the four corners of the earth? What aspect of the globe do the four corners represent?
If you read the Bible with a confirmation bias, namely, that nothing in it is wrong and its god is never immoral, then you make corrections to force that be the case. From that perspective, you assume that the Bible writers, under the direction of their god, knew that the earth didn't have corners, and so you call it metaphor despite there being no indication that the description wasn't meant literally.
The unbeliever doesn't do that. We take the words at their face value. We read the Bible like we read everything else, and like you read everything else. If you were reading the Quran, you wouldn't be doing all of the housekeeping you do when reading your Bible. You'd see something like a self-contradiction, an error of fact, or an immoral act by Allah, and you'd call it that just as the unbelievers here are doing now with scripture from the Christian Bible.
Hockeycowboy said, "Everything about Genesis is correct, when not looking through muddied glasses." Isn't that exactly what we would expect the Muslim to say to us about his holy book if we identified inconsistencies in it?
Figure of speech, whatever type applies. Four corners of the Earth, to the farthest extents. N S E W, Let the four winds blow etc.
But what is in question is does the bible talk about two different kinds of light and water. If it doesn't there are inconsistencies, if it does, there are consistencies. Since the "inconsistencies" are consistent and add up with each other we can assume the author knew what he was talking about. God separated light from darkness and separated the Water between Heaven and Earth. As we can see in Noah, it had already rained enough for the ark to be floating before God opened up the "firmament", the divider between Heaven and Earth. And flooded the Earth with the waters from above. So that's what that is. Some might accept it, others might close their eyes to it, and call them "inconsistencies"
Yes, an earth day is one complete turn of the earth on its axis. Interestingly, the amount of time this takes differs by about 4 minutes depending on what we are using as a reference point - the sun or a star.
A day on earth also been getting longer over the eons as the moon recedes from it and the earth gradually slows.
Days on other celestial bodies will be longer or shorter.
And yes, an omnipotent being could change the rate of earth's axial rotation. So could a large enough impactor. Something did this to Venus. It's day relative to the stars is 243 earth days, and relative to the sun 117 days, the longest day for a planet in our solar system. Whatever hit Venus not only slowed it, but flipped it. The sun rises in its west every 117 earth days.
Sorry. I don't know how that happened.
1. Show that this was the intended reading of this at the time it was written.
2. It still gets major aspects of the sequence of events wrong.
3. Why would I care what Newton thought about this?
Altfish
Veteran Member
God obviously has had a serious problem communicating with us mere mortals. Why does he not attend a course or two. Hebrew is no longer a popular language much better it be Mandarin or English, can I recommend this website...
Plain English Campaign
Then there would be no confusion, if he tries hard he may win one of their awards.
Plain English Campaign
Then there would be no confusion, if he tries hard he may win one of their awards.