waitasec
Veteran Member
when you say restraint you mean, "Loss or abridgment of freedom."?The quality or state of being obedient... Obedient means being submissive to the restraint or command of authority... I don't see anything in there about lack of thought or knowledge.
from Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online
isn't that adhering t a celestial dictatorship in a tyrannical sense
tyrannical meaning: a single ruler is vested with absolute power
so then, what is it believers think they are being saved from? isn't it the consequences of their inevitable sin?I do not know a single Christian who follows God out of fear of the repercussions of sin.
care to explain how that can be?We aren't.
nature means "the essential characteristics and qualities of a person"Because it isn't... You confuse the statement "our nature desires sin" with "we desire sin". They are not the same thing. The first is poetic, it involves metaphor. The personification of our human nature by saying it desires
so what you are indeed saying is 'our essential characteristic is to desire to sin'
no it's not...To say our nature desires sin is to say we are, by our nature, predisposed to, or prone to, sin.
if you said 'our nature is inclined to sin...' that i can agree with, but when you use the word 'desire' inclination is now replaced with intent to sin...
of course everyone does...unless those who are deviant by natureThat is a great example... I would agree that it is in our human nature to seek out the truth... that does not mean everyone does so.
i disagree, what is "the essential characteristics and qualities of a person"?We can reject portions of our inherent nature; "you" are not your nature.
a characteristic by definition is: "a feature that helps to distinguish a person or thing; distinctive"
since no one said being curious was sinful...what is one to do with the innate sense of curiosity...? just be unconcerned about it, ignore it?How did you ever take that from the quote you are responding to?