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Origins of the name "Allah", it's god nothing to do with the moon

DreadFish

Cosmic Vagabond
Its strange when you think about it; that all this conflict about names and stuff, is just conflict about words. The words do not, in and of themselves, apply to the deities or God on their own. They are simply combinations of sounds, its our minds who apply certain meanings to them, and then argue over them. So basically, in a very real sense, its arguing about nothing that actually exists on its own.

I know this is a debate section, im not trying to stop the debating lol, (I like debating) just adding my cents to the debate :D
 

ZoyaHayat

Divine Female Power
Of course you are bringing this up here because of the response I made to your post.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2049875-post66.html

I think you were being extremely offensive and deliberately hateful when you called the incarnations of Vishnu; Rama and Krishna as messengers.

messengers of whom? the deity of the quran whom you believe to exist.

you purposely insulted me telling me that my God is unreal and is instead a created thing, something that serves the non-existent allah. some sub ordinate to a false entity that you worship.

you insulted Lord Rama by comparing Him with your muhammad.

Lord Rama is the Perfect man. Because He is God. Only God is Perfect. So to speak of a perfect anything, it has to be God.

Lord Rama is the Most Morally Righteous.

You compared Rama to your muhammad.

Rama left His consort when her chastity was called into question by a mere washerman even though He knew the accussations were baseless.

when aisha was accussed of adultery, muhammad after some time claimed to have recieved revelations proving her innocent and then he ordered 40 lashes for the accussers.

aisha was betrothed to muhammad when she was merely 6 years old and consummated marriage with her when she was 9.

and that makes him a pedophile.

You are comparing my God as being equal to a pedophile.

I am extremely offended by that.

Not only that in one instance where muhammad after he conquered a large Jewish settlement, he asked Kinana one of the Jewish leaders where the treasures of its tribe is, when Kinana refused to tell him, muhammad gives orders to al-Zubayr Al-Awwam, quote "Torture him untill you extract what he has". So he kindled a fire with a flint and steel on his chest untill he was nearly dead. After that muhammad had him beheaded.

How come, that your allah didnt give him revelations then? how come muhammad the tyrant had to mercilessly torture an innocent man to obtain information?:rolleyes:

Its alright to upset infidels but unacceptable to state the facts about islam so as not to offend its followers?

Is this not hypocrisy? Why do you even claim Rama or Krishna as "messengers/prophets"?

When there ARE prophets/seers/sages in Hinduism who spoke of a Formless, Eternal and Monotheistic God?

Such as Vasistha and Valmiki who are also the characters of Ramayana?

Because you do the same trick with xtians by claiming their jesus - whether he was real or not - whom they consider to be God as being your prophet serving your religion in order to convert them.

Rama or Krishna are not described in the quran, so why do you bother?

What if I called your allah as a servant of Shiva?

One rule for non-muslims and another rule for muslims?

I dont know why you are picking on me continuously-when i have'nt said anything...

For starters get your facts right Shishya-i am not a Muslim-so stop saying 'your Allah' to me...

Secondly,you cant judge me-no one is on the position to judge anyone here...

We can only share views and opinions not enforce what we believe on others...

And Mr please mind your language-you seem very rude and abrupt!has'nt no one taught you the manners to talk to Women politely?...does'nt seem to be xxx
 
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