Ossuary of Jesus ? Fact or Fiction ?

[opensoul7]

James Cameron and Author Simcha Jacobovici Say they have found the Ossuaries of Jesus and his family. The find was originaly discovered in south Jerusalem in 1980 . they say they have dna evidence to support their find.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=c096a808-2514-4540-803d-9eeb08733555&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/&fg=
March fourth on the discovery channel James Camerons documentary will air .the reveal is going to be on at 11:00 A.M east coast time today on MSNBC. What do you think ?
I think without seeing the documentary or reading the book ,that is impossible to prove these claims .

 

[2nd2N1in12nd]

What do you think ?
I think without seeing the documentary or reading the book ,that is impossible to prove these claims .

Jesus did what He had to do Daniel 9:26 clearly states that He will be killed with
Nothing.
" After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. "
His words, recorded In Gospels are all Humans need for Salvation, not stories
about what have happened after Death on The Cross.
Dan Brown and James Cameron will Die for trash-talking, anyway, just like
everybody who do not manage to figure Out who was Jesus, which includes
Original Disciples, not some American dudes. :beach:
If you want to live, think about the truth and love. If you know you will Die, than
my hands are tied up ... :sad4:

much love

Jewpiter

 

[2nd2N1in12nd]

Is your avatar Seraph, from Matrix ?

 

[Mister_T]

James Cameron and Author Simcha Jacobovici Say they have found the Ossuaries of Jesus and his family. The find was originaly discovered in south Jerusalem in 1980 . they say they have dna evidence to support their find.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=c096a808-2514-4540-803d-9eeb08733555&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/&fg=
March fourth on the discovery channel James Camerons documentary will air .the reveal is going to be on at 11:00 A.M east coast time today on MSNBC. What do you think ?
I think without seeing the documentary or reading the book ,that is impossible to prove these claims .

One major thing that is making me not take this seriously, is the hard "DNA evidence" they supposedly have. How would one prove DNA samples were from Jesus when we have no other DNA samples from him to check it against?

 

[pladecalvo]

James Cameron and Author Simcha Jacobovici Say they have found the Ossuaries of Jesus and his family. The find was originaly discovered in south Jerusalem in 1980 . they say they have dna evidence to support their find.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=c096a808-2514-4540-803d-9eeb08733555&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/&fg=
March fourth on the discovery channel James Camerons documentary will air .the reveal is going to be on at 11:00 A.M east coast time today on MSNBC. What do you think ?
I think without seeing the documentary or reading the book ,that is impossible to prove these claims .

From what I've read, the Ossuary has been dated to 1CE but the inscription on it has been shown to be fake.........or have I got the wrong box?

 

[Mister_T]

From what I've read, the Ossuary has been dated to 1CE but the inscription on it has been shown to be fake.........or have I got the wrong box?

Wrong box I think. The one you're thinking of is Jesus' brother James ossuary.

 

[pladecalvo]

Wrong box I think. The one you're thinking of is Jesus' brother James ossuary.

Sorry, Carry on!:sorry1:

 

[Arabis]

James Cameron and Author Simcha Jacobovici Say they have found the Ossuaries of Jesus and his family. The find was originaly discovered in south Jerusalem in 1980 . they say they have dna evidence to support their find.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=c096a808-2514-4540-803d-9eeb08733555&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/&fg=
March fourth on the discovery channel James Camerons documentary will air .the reveal is going to be on at 11:00 A.M east coast time today on MSNBC. What do you think ?
I think without seeing the documentary or reading the book ,that is impossible to prove these claims .

Wow, that looks really controversial. I can't imagine what they will say that could get Christians to doubt their faith in Christ. That is too bad that they are so excited about disproving Christianity.

 

[love]

So many on this furum will not except any evidence that Jesus even lived even though His life changed the world forever. I wonder how quick they accept this lie as the truth.

 

[Nanda]

That is too bad that they are so excited about disproving Christianity.

I didn't get that sense at all. :/ It seemed to me that they just found something interesting and wanted to follow it up. Besides, I think we all know that people will draw their own conclusions, regardless of what is in that box.

 

[pladecalvo]

So many on this furum will not except any evidence that Jesus even lived even though His life changed the world forever. I wonder how quick they accept this lie as the truth.

How can you claim it to be a lie? We don't know anything about it yet!

 

[pladecalvo]

Wow, that looks really controversial. I can't imagine what they will say that could get Christians to doubt their faith in Christ. That is too bad that they are so excited about disproving Christianity.

Blimey! I would be.

 

[Comprehend]

James Cameron and Author Simcha Jacobovici Say they have found the Ossuaries of Jesus and his family. The find was originaly discovered in south Jerusalem in 1980 . they say they have dna evidence to support their find.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=c096a808-2514-4540-803d-9eeb08733555&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/&fg=
March fourth on the discovery channel James Camerons documentary will air .the reveal is going to be on at 11:00 A.M east coast time today on MSNBC. What do you think ?
I think without seeing the documentary or reading the book ,that is impossible to prove these claims .

I don't understand what good the DNA evidence is. Do they have other DNA of Jesus to compare it to? Unless they have some known descendant of Jesus, what good does it do?

 

[Mister_T]

I don't understand what good the DNA evidence is. Do they have other DNA of Jesus to compare it to? Unless they have some known descendant of Jesus, what good does it do?

One major thing that is making me not take this seriously, is the hard "DNA evidence" they supposedly have. How would one prove DNA samples were from Jesus when we have no other DNA samples from him to check it against?

Great minds think alike.

 

[astarath]

I don't understand what good the DNA evidence is. Do they have other DNA of Jesus to compare it to? Unless they have some known descendant of Jesus, what good does it do?

sorry that is misinformation. They actually do not have dna evidence that relates the bones to a previous sample. They are using a method of dating based off of the patina that has formed on the ossuary itself. The patina method is similar to carbon-dating used on scrolls.

They intend to show the appropriate date from the patina being 1AD and then sample the patina and cross date it with the James ossuary. This will link the two as til now no one knows where the James ossuary came from. If the ossuary of James can be proven authentic by this method then and only then will they cross reference DNA strands.

The tomb they found holds several ossuaries, mary the mother, mary the magdalene, Joseph, Jude(as). Now they can cross reference the DnA from the brothers with the the Dna claimed to be of christ if they all match to a specific maternal dna strand it will show they are all brothers. However the key point will be that the dna for the father should not come back the same for the brothers versus Jesus'. Not all the brother's need match Joseph's as it is unlikely that Joseph fathered all the brothers and sister's of Christ. But as long as James the next oldest brother matches, this will act as solid proof of the existence of a corporeal christ post ressurection. Obviously this is alot of evidence that is required to be validated and verified in order for this to take place but also note that this gentleman Jacobvicci has been studying these ossuaries for over 20 years now and I am sure has found at least some of the aforementioned scientific links in order to entice James Cameron to do a documentary.

 

[Rolling_Stone]

Anti-Christian propaganda is easy. I'd like to see someone do it with Islam.

 

[astarath]

That called fox news C/o MR George W Bush

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Great minds think alike.

Ha! If only arguing against this silliness required higher order thinking skills.

Lesser minds think alike, too. Like the bozos who write and published the book - assuming, of course, they actually believe it.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Ha!!

 

[maggie2]

I was watching some of this on the television this morning and found it very interesting. I watched James Cameron and the fellow he was on the Today show with did not in any way claim that this is 100% sure.

In my opinion, they simply provided some interesting facts. They were clear that the tomb had been discovered back in the 80's. They said that since that time experts have determined that the name on one of the boxes (which I don't remember at this moment) belongs to Mary Magdeline. Cameron said that the original folks who discovered the boxes didn't know this at the time they discovered them.

Cameron also said that no one had done any statistical analysis on the likelihood that all these boxes would be in the same tomb and not be related to Jesus. He said the statistical probability was amazing.

He is still not saying that it is Jesus. What he is doing is presenting new information about the name Mary Magdeline, the statistics and some DNA testing they did.

I thought his presentation was measured and reasonable, and he was pretty clear about not making extreme claims of any kind.

What I found even more interesting was to see the spin that was being put on the whole topic, both on MSNBC and CNN. Both stations immediately trotted out their 'Bible experts' and had these experts more or less making fun of the new information. Typical reaction.

The big problem for the church is that if these are indeed the bones of Jesus then the fact that they've been teaching Jesus physical resurrections would be proven false. For me, and I suspect for many Christians, that would be no problem. I never did believe in physical resurrection anyway, and I know many who don't. While I believe that the soul survives death, I don't believe in a bodily survival and most of the Christians I know don't believe that either.

There wasn't even a hair turned over the fact that if this is Jesus and the box that contained Judah, son of Jesus turns out to be his son. The big worry was that the church would lost the 'bodily resurrection'. Imagine that. Not a word about the son thing. Maybe the whole DaVinci thing helped in that area.

Anyway, I think it will be very interesting over the days and months ahead to see what comes of this. I find it really interesting that so many things have come up lately that bring literal beliefs into question. I'll be watching this with interest.