Other World's'

[Elijah674]

The first verse is seen in Eccl. 1:9-10, and the next is seen again ‘documented’ in the chapter of 3:15 verse, & then again is documented in Gen. 41:32 for how the Godhead always works. Here they are in order....

[9] The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there [is no new thing under the sun].
[10] Is there [any thing whereof it may be said,] See, this is new? it [hath been already of old time, which was before us.]

Gods WORD can be trusted. This is clearly stated, & there are verses that are all seen all through out the Bible to back this up. See 2 Peter 1:20-21 including 1 Cor. 14:32.
And this is even doubled! In chapter three the fifteen verse we read this....
[15] That which hath been is now; and that which is to [be hath already been;] and [God requireth that which is past.]]
Ok, we will get into before Adam & Eve were created! But first another couple verses as is seen in the [total book!] God cannot lie nor does He change we are told in Mal. 3:6, along Christ as seen in Heb. 13:8. But next we see Gen. 41:32 for how the ‘Three’ of the Godhead Work. And remember that there are three in the the creation of mankind. (The Holy Spirit, and two talking back & forth in Gen. 3:22)
Now comes Gen. 41:32 and note the passage well, for how the Godhead works.
[32] And for that the [dream was doubled] unto Pharaoh [twice]; it is because the thing is [established by God], and God will shortly bring it to pass.
(and what does time mean to Them???)

We have the Eccl. verses documented & now this verse to Pharaoh seen for how the Godhead work. Never mind where or to whom it is talking to as the Words are all Inspired as 2 Peter 1:20-21 told us about OLD TIME!
Now comes to view Matt. 24:21 for ‘our day’ in which we are living. Note the following verses! Surely the Words of Christ show exactly what TIME we are living at! (or in!) The verse states this....

[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, [no, nor ever shall be.]
[22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but [[for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened]].
[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
[24] For there [[shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;]] insomuch that, [[if it were possible]], they shall deceive the very elect.
(and our day without all of these ‘great tribulations even’ and with only ‘ALL of Their INCREASED KNOWLEDGE’ such as satellites + computers & the like surely tell us what time frame we living in!)
And you can rest assured that these [broadway ones] are not the very elect from Rev. 17:1-5 with [all of these daughters seen!]
Now for more insights seen! Satan, the devil & his names throughout the whole Bible. (which needs Isa. 14:12-14 included! That of Lucifer.) Rev. 12 has the complete picture of the satanic evil on all the Earth from even heavens rebellion & then on earth until his last war with the professed saints which Ends with the 666 thing. But note verse 17 in detail, for here is a picture of who satans war was against ....
[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which [[keep the commandments of God,]] and [[have the testimony of Jesus Christ.]]

That is the complete picture! This is the Total picture! All in between with this Exception of [[“CHRIST” being CENTER/PIECE of the ETERNAL GOSPEL]] (Acts 4:12) that surely has it all mixed up with Moses laws of Deut. 31:9-&10 & 24-26
of ‘ORDINANCES’ as is seen in Acts 15 about being circumcised + verse 5 which states they believed....
[1] And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.[2] When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.....

[4] And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
[5] But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.[6] And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.


And from there we see the same bunch in Eph. 2 & Col. 2 with theses laws of Moses that were to be done away with in Eph. 2:12-15. But it was NOT just this that had or has ALL the Rev. 17:1-5 + DAUGHTERS ALL MIXED UP! It was what was to was ‘FINISHED’ as well! Satan was ALSO ‘DOCUMENTED AS FINISHED!’ When he has in bottom/line had CHRIST EXECUTED , he [KNEW] that he also was finished as it is DOCUMENTED in Rev. 12:12....
[12] Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, [[because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.]]
(and as was mentioned, what does time mean in Bible viewing?? And the WORD of God, surely it is all REMEMBERED BY A PERFECT BEING!!)

Now for a bigger PICTURE! Other worlds, even in the plural! MANY! OK?? Got that? These other worlds NEVER UNDERSTOOD SIN? They were ‘all created sinless!’ They only knew that the Godhead said that is was against Their moral makeup or their CHARACTER. 2 Cor. 3:3. And until satan rebelled, and took 1/3 of the angels with him, this was unknown by all the rest of the loyal ones! 1 John 5:16 tells us that there is a sin unto death in the last part of the verse, and this was where satan & the fallen angel had passed! (the sin against the Holy Spirit)
Surely we do not think that this planet was the ONLY reason for God to ‘ALLOW’ for the Christ to be prophesied to BECOME the Second Adam to prove that sin was NONE OR THEIR DOINGS do you??
But this was the way that they did it by ‘ALLOWING’ Christ to become the Second Adam & die at the hand of satan. (in bottom line) And surely he died as the FAITHFULL Adam would have if he had been sinless, See where he was weighted down with the sins of the world, and could not see any way out while He cried out these WORDS....
Matt. 27:46
[46] And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a [[loud voice,]] saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

And this shows that Christ died as the FAITHFUL SECOND Adam could have done, and it PROVED that sin was to be entirely done away with & would never take place a SECOND time! Nah. 1:9!
And even upon Christ Sat. evening resurrection ‘before’ daylight he told Mary while it was yet dark & she did not recognize him at the first that He was not to be ‘touched’ for he needed to go to the his Father & see if he had been faithful.
As ALL of us ones must do! Heb. 11:1-2 & then READ the THIRD Verse!

--Elijah

 

[Ingledsva]

The first verse is seen in Eccl. 1:9-10, and the next is seen again ‘documented’ in the chapter of 3:15 verse, & then again is documented in Gen. 41:32 for how the Godhead always works. Here they are in order....

[9] The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there [is no new thing under the sun].
[10] Is there [any thing whereof it may be said,] See, this is new? it [hath been already of old time, which was before us.]

Gods WORD can be trusted. This is clearly stated, & there are verses that are all seen all through out the Bible to back this up. See 2 Peter 1:20-21 including 1 Cor. 14:32.
And this is even doubled! In chapter three the fifteen verse we read this....
[15] That which hath been is now; and that which is to [be hath already been;] and [God requireth that which is past.]]
Ok, we will get into before Adam & Eve were created! But first another couple verses as is seen in the [total book!] God cannot lie nor does He change we are told in Mal. 3:6, along Christ as seen in Heb. 13:8. But next we see Gen. 41:32 for how the ‘Three’ of the Godhead Work. And remember that there are three in the the creation of mankind. (The Holy Spirit, and two talking back & forth in Gen. 3:22)
Now comes Gen. 41:32 and note the passage well, for how the Godhead works.
[32] And for that the [dream was doubled] unto Pharaoh [twice]; it is because the thing is [established by God], and God will shortly bring it to pass.
(and what does time mean to Them???)

We have the Eccl. verses documented & now this verse to Pharaoh seen for how the Godhead work. Never mind where or to whom it is talking to as the Words are all Inspired as 2 Peter 1:20-21 told us about OLD TIME!
Now comes to view Matt. 24:21 for ‘our day’ in which we are living. Note the following verses! Surely the Words of Christ show exactly what TIME we are living at! (or in!) The verse states this....

[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, [no, nor ever shall be.]
[22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but [[for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened]].
[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
[24] For there [[shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;]] insomuch that, [[if it were possible]], they shall deceive the very elect.
(and our day without all of these ‘great tribulations even’ and with only ‘ALL of Their INCREASED KNOWLEDGE’ such as satellites + computers & the like surely tell us what time frame we living in!)
And you can rest assured that these [broadway ones] are not the very elect from Rev. 17:1-5 with [all of these daughters seen!]
Now for more insights seen! Satan, the devil & his names throughout the whole Bible. (which needs Isa. 14:12-14 included! That of Lucifer.) Rev. 12 has the complete picture of the satanic evil on all the Earth from even heavens rebellion & then on earth until his last war with the professed saints which Ends with the 666 thing. But note verse 17 in detail, for here is a picture of who satans war was against ....
[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which [[keep the commandments of God,]] and [[have the testimony of Jesus Christ.]]

That is the complete picture! This is the Total picture! All in between with this Exception of [[“CHRIST” being CENTER/PIECE of the ETERNAL GOSPEL]] (Acts 4:12) that surely has it all mixed up with Moses laws of Deut. 31:9-&10 & 24-26
of ‘ORDINANCES’ as is seen in Acts 15 about being circumcised + verse 5 which states they believed....
[1] And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.[2] When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.....

[4] And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
[5] But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.[6] And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.


And from there we see the same bunch in Eph. 2 & Col. 2 with theses laws of Moses that were to be done away with in Eph. 2:12-15. But it was NOT just this that had or has ALL the Rev. 17:1-5 + DAUGHTERS ALL MIXED UP! It was what was to was ‘FINISHED’ as well! Satan was ALSO ‘DOCUMENTED AS FINISHED!’ When he has in bottom/line had CHRIST EXECUTED , he [KNEW] that he also was finished as it is DOCUMENTED in Rev. 12:12....
[12] Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, [[because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.]]
(and as was mentioned, what does time mean in Bible viewing?? And the WORD of God, surely it is all REMEMBERED BY A PERFECT BEING!!)

Now for a bigger PICTURE! Other worlds, even in the plural! MANY! OK?? Got that? These other worlds NEVER UNDERSTOOD SIN? They were ‘all created sinless!’ They only knew that the Godhead said that is was against Their moral makeup or their CHARACTER. 2 Cor. 3:3. And until satan rebelled, and took 1/3 of the angels with him, this was unknown by all the rest of the loyal ones! 1 John 5:16 tells us that there is a sin unto death in the last part of the verse, and this was where satan & the fallen angel had passed! (the sin against the Holy Spirit)
Surely we do not think that this planet was the ONLY reason for God to ‘ALLOW’ for the Christ to be prophesied to BECOME the Second Adam to prove that sin was NONE OR THEIR DOINGS do you??
But this was the way that they did it by ‘ALLOWING’ Christ to become the Second Adam & die at the hand of satan. (in bottom line) And surely he died as the FAITHFULL Adam would have if he had been sinless, See where he was weighted down with the sins of the world, and could not see any way out while He cried out these WORDS....
Matt. 27:46
[46] And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a [[loud voice,]] saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

And this shows that Christ died as the FAITHFUL SECOND Adam could have done, and it PROVED that sin was to be entirely done away with & would never take place a SECOND time! Nah. 1:9!
And even upon Christ Sat. evening resurrection ‘before’ daylight he told Mary while it was yet dark & she did not recognize him at the first that He was not to be ‘touched’ for he needed to go to the his Father & see if he had been faithful.
As ALL of us ones must do! Heb. 11:1-2 & then READ the THIRD Verse!

--Elijah

Far too much information and jumping around of texts for us to understand what you are actually trying to say.

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[Twilight Hue]

Hard to highlight on what's being emphasised.

When....

Everything is underlined.

Even the bolded text.

 

[Elijah674]

Well that was my first post on this site, and the underlining was not intended! But I stick with the posting. Perhaps someone could help me out without all of these underlines, in how to derail them!

--Elijah

 

[Elijah674]

Rev. 12 complete as ‘I’ see it.

[1] And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
[2] And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
[3] And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
[4] And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Where did the this war start & with whom in verse 3-4? Not hard to understand. Even the plan of the Gospel is brought in view! ibid 2.


[5] And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
And one can read Eze. 28 & see the likeness of satan with the king of Tyrus, starting with verse 12-19. And even see Isa. 14:12-14 calling satan by his heavenly name before he fell from the highest position in heaven, to Rev. war on Earth. God even tells of his End.

[6] And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
[7] And there was [[war in heaven; ]] Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
[8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more [in heaven.]
And here is satan seen throughout all the Inspired book, giving all the names of the onetime SAVED Lucifer.

[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the ‘whole world:’ he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

satan was no doubt the first of the Lords creation. (based on history repeated Eccl. 1:8 & 9 + repeated in ibid 3:15) And Adam & Eves son being the first of their offspring who again fell from Grace. (but they were at one time saved! unless Lucifer who was created PERFECT was flawed! ‘I’ speak in total ignorance!)

[10] And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
And this was all past tense at the ‘execution of Christ’ becoming the SECOND Adam as was prophesied in the OT. (for the twofold PURPOSE of Their LOVE for ‘us’ who were only in there plans, and the other WORLDS who never knew what sin was except God did indeed have a Eternal Law against it. And note the WORD OF WORLDS in the plural! Also see why this was so, this LIBERTY is the very MORAL CHARACTER of the three who we ‘LOVINGLY’ worship! See 2 Cor. 3:*3!)

[11] And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Almost all will quickly give up their life for the ONE THAT THEY ‘LOVE’ if need be? I say need be?? Dan. 3:14 might be an exception as we read of the 144000!

[12] Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
And surely one can read this and understand, and he knoweth that he has a short time??? Who of you know this? But satan does indeed know this execution of Christ sealed his Eternal fate to ASHES. Even though the Godhead
required that their just law would be done this way, for his rebellion found it was not possible to save satan & his follower’s with the Godheads required ‘LIBERTY’. Remember that they now made this free/choice possible as seen in Gen. 3:22!
[13] And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
[14] And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
[15] And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
[16] And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

And a war was declared. But PLEASE NOTE! That this is the complete history of the Bible, all of it including from heaven rebellion all the way through to satan and all of his ‘followers’ being lovingly executed. Lovingly?? Surely they will be put out of their misery! And the next verse concludes with who the saved will be as they are split into TWO groups! As it was done just before Christ FIRST coming, the few who loved him against the broadway one who only said that they did.

[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which [[keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.]]

This is the total story, all were Commandment keepers! See Gen. 12:1-5 for all of these GENTILE ‘SOULS’ that were won over to CHRIST! How much time does it take to ‘educate’ one to accept Christ! And look at what these ones were ALL TAUGHT in Gen. 26:5 even after Abe had died! Take note of what they now believed & what they had BEEN TAUGHT! ....

[5] Because that [[Abraham obeyed my voice]], and [[kept my charge]], [[[my commandments]]], my statutes, and my laws.

And this is the TRUE story from Adam & Eve until Christ brings His ‘REWARD’ to the ones who ‘lived the FAITH!‘ Heb. 11:1-2 The Lords Eternal Law was never a ‘TEMPTING’ question ! Matt. 22:37-38
[35] Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38] This is the [[first and great commandment.]]
--Elijah

 

[Ingledsva]

Well that was my first post on this site, and the underlining was not intended! But I stick with the posting. Perhaps someone could help me out without all of these underlines, in how to derail them!

--Elijah

Well, - that's nice you stick with your post. -

We stick with - what are you trying to show us?

You should have written an intro, telling us what you believe, - and then have posted pertinent verses to show that.

EDIT - forgot to add - the Bible saying the same thing three times is not documentation of anything.

And there is no evil Satan in Tanakh. No Satan in Isaiah. No fall of Satan.

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[RabbiO]

‘I’ speak in total ignorance!

I certainly can agree with that.

Amongst other things...... there is no one, no thing, named Lucifer in Isaiah.