Otherworldly Experiences

[Saint Xtreme]

Well if ghosts can move things like light switches and cabinent doors, is it that far of a jump to think they could hurt a human?

 

[kreeden]

Perhaps SX . Depending on " how " they move things and if " will " comes into play . But I don't wish to debate that . I'm just wondering if anyone here has had those experiences . As I said , it is only a theory I have . I very well could be wrong .

 

[Saint Xtreme]

My strategy is to avoid ever coming into "physical" contact with a spirit. You can look at me and talk to me and motion at me, just don't touch me because I'd prolly lose it!

 

[Master Vigil]

My strategy is to avoid ever coming into "physical" contact with a spirit. You can look at me and talk to me and motion at me, just don't touch me because I'd prolly lose it!

Sorry, but they touch you all the time.

 

[kreeden]

Sounds kinda kinky MV . { just joking }

 

[Feathers in Hair]

Arrrgghh! I wish I wasn't at the library and had more time so I could share some!

 

[Master Vigil]

Sounds kinda kinky MV . { just joking }

HAHA!!! Well, in the case of incubuses and succubuses, I guess it would be. Even though they don't exist.

 

[Saint Xtreme]

Encountering a Succubi would be among the oddest experiences that I can imagine. It would just be VERY weird. I would certainly feel violated, if the stories are true pleased, but still violated.

 

[kreeden]

I wouldn't be so sure that they don't exist , in one form or another .

I wish that you had more time too Feathers . So share your experiences , and just to share your company here .

 

[Master Vigil]

I know some spirits help with sexual fantasies, and if being raped is a persons sexual fantasy, then the spirit may help. But there are no spirits that rape, and drag into hell.

 

[kreeden]

But there are no spirits that rape, and drag into hell.

Oh darn . I'm joking MV . As I don't believe in Hell , I have to agree with you . But as with everything , we all have our own personal views of such things , and ... well , I guess it would depend upon how one sees it .

You should know me well enough by now MV to realize that I believe that we make our own Realities , to a large degree . What I see as a thing of beauty , another may be repulsed by .

 

[michel]

I had completely forgotten about something 'amusing' that happened to me in my late teens.
I had a friend who claimed to be a psychic ; one day I was out with him when we bumped into two of his friends (husband & wife)- they were a bit 'strange looking' in that they dressed unconventionally and stood out in a crowd.
I was introduced to them, and the wife game me a long strange look; she then said to my friend, and to her husband :"Ghosh - he's one of them; I haven't seen one for years!"

I waited until they had gone, and asked my friend what on earth she meant; he told me that she specialized in tracing 'groups of spirits' - and that I apparently belonged to a group called 'The happy children'. I never did quite understand what that meant - and my friend had no idea either . Oh well....

 

[Prima]

Prima , I'm not sure if that was in reply to my question or not ? But assuming that it was , as you were physically harmed , I think that dreams are a little different then what I was wondering about . In a dream , the subconsious is in control , and that can lead to all kinds of things . From harming one's self by thrashing around , to manifesting wounds .

I guess that depends on what you think dreams are. As I said, I don't think that was a normal dream. There are dreams, and there are...experiences during sleep. A dream comes only from yourself - it's all your own thoughts, ideas, etc. Interesting experiences often come during or near sleep because we don't have such a hold on our concept of what is possible and real and what isn't. No, let me rephrase that - people who have a strong hold on this idea of 'real and not real' or 'possible and not possible' have sleep-time experiences more often. I think that someone like MV has them during the day because he does not anywhere in his mind consider them to be 'impossible' or 'unreal'

I don't think that that was a dream because I had a distinct feeling of 'other'

But regardless, there's no way to tell, so there's no point.

MV, I didn't know that spirits help with sexual fantasies. Can you give me something to read up on about that?

Michel, that's pretty funny...being me, I would have stalked her until she told me.

 

[Master Vigil]

MV, I didn't know that spirits help with sexual fantasies. Can you give me something to read up on about that?

Not sure, I didn't learn it from a book.

 

[jimbob]

When I was about 29, I had a spooky experience. I had been in bed for about 10 minutes and all of a sudden my skin started to crawl and it felt as if something incredibly evil was in the room with me. I remember being so terrified and pulling the covers up until I was cocooned in the blankets with just enough space to see. Like a bad horror movie, I just kept whispering "please go away, please go away" over and over. Then, the hall light turned on and then a few seconds later, turned off. It did this twice more before staying off. Then a few seconds later, the sensation of evil was gone. The whole experience didn't last more than 5 minutes.

I've never had a similar experience before or after and I hope I never do again. It's been 20 years and I can still remember how terrified I was. I have absolutely no curiousity to know what was in that room with me either.

Thanks soooooooo much. Now i won't be able to sleep tonight. :149:

 

[Prima]

Not sure, I didn't learn it from a book.

Drat. I'll pass over the implications of that and just say that it's unfortunate you don't have literature on it, because it sounds interesting.

 

[Master Vigil]

Yeah, I'm sorry. I knew a lady who had a sexual disorder and couldn't orgasm, but I had a spirit help her with her fantasies and she was eventually able to orgasm. I hope this is appropriate for the forums. But they do exist. Perhaps I should write a book, than you'd have something to read.

 

[Prima]

MV, I would love to read stuff you wrote. Your experiences are infinitely more interesting and fun than mine!

In fact, I think you should start a website with articles you and others with similar beliefs as you write. That would be cool Or, you could just post them on here

Jimbob, you're right...that was creepy. I actually did think about that last night.

Heh...on another note, you sound like a helpful person to have around!

 

[Master Vigil]

Well, I started a site where I am teaching classes on spiritual vigilance online. (link is in signature below) I am thinking about writing a book as well. So we'll see.

 

[kreeden]

I guess that depends on what you think dreams are. As I said, I don't think that was a normal dream. There are dreams, and there are...experiences during sleep. A dream comes only from yourself - it's all your own thoughts, ideas, etc. Interesting experiences often come during or near sleep because we don't have such a hold on our concept of what is possible and real and what isn't. No, let me rephrase that - people who have a strong hold on this idea of 'real and not real' or 'possible and not possible' have sleep-time experiences more often. I think that someone like MV has them during the day because he does not anywhere in his mind consider them to be 'impossible' or 'unreal'

Prima , I agree . But the very fact that it is harder to seperate the Spiritual from the dream when asleep is why I tend to question it . As I hasn't in your dream , I had to ask . I will reread it . Thank you .