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Out of Curiosity,

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
As an atheist, do you tend to assume that the theists you meet or talk to are Creationists? Is it something you have to remind yourself at times that there are theists who agree with the theory of evolution?

Just curious.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
As an atheist, do you tend to assume that the theists you meet or talk to are Creationists?

Only when they make much of a point of showing their belief in God. I tend to forget that Creationism even exists (it is simply too absurd to want to deny Evolutionism at this point in History), while belief in God is IMO a legitimate, if personal, belief.


Is it something you have to remind yourself at times that there are theists who agree with the theory of evolution?

Quite the opposite, in fact.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
A side question. Do Atheists acknowledge that not all Theists even believe in a creation, or that our gods created anything? I don't.
 

The_Evelyonian

Old-School Member
As an atheist, do you tend to assume that the theists you meet or talk to are Creationists? Is it something you have to remind yourself at times that there are theists who agree with the theory of evolution?

Just curious.

A side question. Do Atheists acknowledge that not all Theists even believe in a creation, or that our gods created anything? I don't.

What Revoltingest said.

I try not to make any assumptions or generalizations when talking to theists because I know that theistic beliefs can vary quite a bit from person to person.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Same here, although I tend to assume that people have at least a degree of coherence with the beliefs of their own claimed faiths.
 

Amill

Apikoros
A side question. Do Atheists acknowledge that not all Theists even believe in a creation, or that our gods created anything? I don't.
Sure do, in fact I try to push this fact onto creationists. It seems they have more trouble realizing that not all evolutionists are atheists and that there are a lot of theists who believe in evolution.
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
I only make the assumption that a theist has a belief in some kind of god.

Honestly I get a little surprised when I learn someone rejects evolution. I'm used to it so it doesn't leave me speechless or anything, quite the opposite, but I really don't expect it as much as I probably should given the statistics.

I will never understand how a reasonable, rational person can be so completely unreasonable and irrational about anything regarding their religion. So I guess I will just keep being surprised.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
In person, I rarely make assumptions, but rather, listen carefully to what people are saying and go from there. It wouldn't occur to me to connect creationism with belief in god, although, it is true, the odds go up pretty sharply once god enters the picture.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
As an atheist, do you tend to assume that the theists you meet or talk to are Creationists? Is it something you have to remind yourself at times that there are theists who agree with the theory of evolution?

Just curious.
No, I don't assume it. In fact, I've noticed that I tend to assume the opposite, because I'll be rather surprised when I'm talking to a theist and it suddenly becomes apparent that he or she is a Creationist.

A side question. Do Atheists acknowledge that not all Theists even believe in a creation, or that our gods created anything? I don't.
The vast majority of theists that I know in real life profess the Apostle's Creed on a regular basis, so the question doesn't really have much impact on my daily life.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I never assume. If I wish to discuss evolution it is always with the header that I understand a lot of people don't feel the same as me. If they indicate they do not wish to discuss we move on.
 

BucephalusBB

ABACABB
As an atheist, do you tend to assume that the theists you meet or talk to are Creationists? Is it something you have to remind yourself at times that there are theists who agree with the theory of evolution?

Just curious.

I asume at first that every theist does not really follow a religion but believes "there is something".
Most of them will believe in evolution. And most will not be creationist.
It's the trend in the Netherlands..
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
By "theists", do you mean just Christians? And by "creationists" do you mean just people who believe in the biblical story of creation or who believe that some god or gods created everything?

I usually assume that most Christians are not Young Earth Creationists. I also tend to assume that a theist believes in some form of divine intervention that resulted in human beings coming into existence. That is probably a reasonable conclusion to jump to, but sometimes I need to revise it. The argument from design is one of the most powerful intuitive arguments for the existence of complex designs that we find in nature. Most people do not really understand how evolution works.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
I assume the opposite. Only once have I been surprised by someone angrily insisting she wasn't descended from a monkey when I mentioned something interesting I had read about human evolution.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
As an atheist, do you tend to assume that the theists you meet or talk to are Creationists? Is it something you have to remind yourself at times that there are theists who agree with the theory of evolution?

Just curious.
Nah. Even before I acquired an image of God, I knew enough from the theists I had met in my life to know that the version of creationism that is known as a "movement" was peculiar.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I simply assume that most people haven't put enough thought into either creation or evolution to have a meaningful opinion on either. When either of these topics do come up, this assumption usually turns out to be correct.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
By "theists", do you mean just Christians? And by "creationists" do you mean just people who believe in the biblical story of creation or who believe that some god or gods created everything?

No, I mean any religious theistic person. And by 'creationist' I mean a person who believes that God or gods came or appeared on Earth as they are. Ie/ no evolution.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Thanks guys for the responses.
I'll admit that as a theist, and one who until a couple of years ago was a creationist, I am also surprised when I meet a creationist.
 
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