Overcoming Death

[Truth in love]

Should humanity overcome death?

Death has dominated the human psyche, religion, philosophy, and culture since before the dawn of recorded history.

But should Humanity overcome death?

Or is it best to accept things as they are, and learn to live with the fact that death comes for all?

We should accept. I’m all for trying to live longer and healthier. However earth is as much a part of Gods big plan as is birth.

 

[syo]

Should humanity overcome death?

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[The Hammer]

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Should we attempt to live forever through a quest for immortality?

 

[syo]

Should we attempt to live forever through a quest for immortality?

NO.

But, if some people want to become undead, I don't care about them.

 

[firedragon]

Should humanity overcome death?

Death has dominated the human psyche, religion, philosophy, and culture since before the dawn of recorded history.

But should Humanity overcome death?

Or is it best to accept things as they are, and learn to live with the fact that death comes for all?

I think it's best to accept things as they are and learn to live with the fact that death comes for all, while using scientific endeavour to overcome death.

This is what humanity has been doing for a long long time from what's apparent IMO.

 

[Vee]

Should humanity overcome death?

Death has dominated the human psyche, religion, philosophy, and culture since before the dawn of recorded history.

But should Humanity overcome death?

Or is it best to accept things as they are, and learn to live with the fact that death comes for all?

From a Christian point of view, death is not "normal".
In Ecclesiastes 3:11 we read : "He has made everything beautiful in its time. Ha has even put eternity in their heart". If God put eternity in people's hearts it's because he didn't want for us to die. Which is probably which we live the death of our loved ones with so much sorrow and the perspective of our own death with a measure of fear.

 

[RestlessSoul]

A standout line from the very excellent movie Death of Stalin, comes when Kruschev, played by Steve Buscemi, turns to Malenkov and says with real passion “Who in their right mind would want everlasting ****ing life?”

 

[Trailblazer]

A standout line from the very excellent movie Death of Stalin, comes when Kruschev, played by Steve Buscemi, turns to Malenkov and says with real passion “Who in their right mind would want everlasting ****ing life?”

I certainly would not want everlasting life in this world, but I 'might' want it when I get to the next world. However, if there is everlasting life in the next world it is a decision that God made. I mean if the soul is immortal, I won't be able to do anything about it. I won't be able to opt out, if I don't like it I will just have to accept it and adjust.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Should we attempt to live forever through a quest for immortality?

I think that has been granted. Just we will never know it.

 

[The Hammer]

I think that has been granted. Just we will never know it.

Idk... I place some stock in past life experiences. I think some things could potentially carry over, even if our "self" does not.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Idk... I place some stock in past life experiences. I think some things could potentially carry over, even if our "self" does not.

I just think the lights come on and off with a completely wiped mind. Same as this existence when it began.

Question is who is the next one? What and where?

I figure that's for the next 'me' to deal with.

 

[Trailblazer]

I think that has been granted. Just we will never know it.

I think we will know if we die and realize we are not really dead.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I think we will know if we die and realize we are not really dead.

Naw. I dont think it works that way.

I figure it's the same as this life has been.


Lights out, pitch black, something clicks on line..

Eyes open, information starts to come in and off one goes....

 

[Twilight Hue]

Idk... I place some stock in past life experiences. I think some things could potentially carry over, even if our "self" does not.

Problem is determining if it's actually something to it or if it's its just mental musings.

I fear no one will ever be sure 100% if it's the case or not.

 

[Colt]

Should humanity overcome death?

Death has dominated the human psyche, religion, philosophy, and culture since before the dawn of recorded history.

But should Humanity overcome death?

Or is it best to accept things as they are, and learn to live with the fact that death comes for all?

We are really just software living in a hard drive that's a planned obsolescence. After death or translation to the next world we are totally at the mercy of a "download" into a "new and more enduring substance".

 

[blü 2]

Should humanity overcome death?

Death has dominated the human psyche, religion, philosophy, and culture since before the dawn of recorded history.

But should Humanity overcome death?

Or is it best to accept things as they are, and learn to live with the fact that death comes for all?

Sit at your puter and watch the >population clock< for a minute.

Then tell me the world needs more people.

Each animal ─ not least us humans ─ is born with the evolved seasons of a life built in ─ infancy and learning to belong to your family and your community and to speak their language, education in what your community holds are necessary skills, adolescence and preparation for pairing off, parenthood and the repeat of the cycle, and grandparenthood, whose benefits to children have been studied and found to be important and positive.

But great-grandparenthood? Nope, not contributive. Sure, it's natural to be afraid of death, it's natural be be as healthy as you can, but it's also natural that your life has an upper boundary, and as the population ages, proportionately fewer and fewer taxpayers are there to support the aging population and their naturally increasing health demands.

Do we want Trump and Putin to live forever? It will be the robber barons, the billionaires, the people who won't let go of power, who'll be first in line for the finished product of immortality.

So instead, consider a famous passage in Homer (Iliad Bk 6: 146-8):

οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρών.
φύλλα τὰ μέν τ' ἄνεμος χαμάδις χέει, ἄλλα δ θ' ὕλη
τηλεθόωσα φύει, ἔαρος δ' ἐπιγίγνεται ὥρη:

As the generations of leaves, so those of men.
The wind scatters the leaves to the ground but the wood
bursts into new bud and the spring comes round.​

Unless, of course, we were packing them into starships for the very long periods it takes to travel round our galaxy. But I suspect such projects, if ─ big if ─ we ever get serious about them, will be better dealt with by android versions of us, Homo sapiens mechanicus.

 

[YoursTrue]

Yes.
Baha’is believe that souls go to heaven and take on a spiritual body, which is the same as what Paul says in 1st Cor:

We are raised in a spiritual body and only spiritual bodies can enter heaven.

(1st Corinthians 15:35) "But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?"

36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

OK, let me ask you this, because I thought about what you said, and the scripture comes to mind that says in my flesh shall I see God. So is there spiritual flesh?
Yes, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, but this does not mean that there will not be those who benefit FROM that kingdom. I know it may be hard for some to understand, but that's ok. There are kings (in the kingdom of God) and there are those under the auspices of those kings of righteousness along with Jesus.

 

[YoursTrue]

13 4 billion is thought to be the limit.

How many people can Earth support?

I don't think the quest for immortality is going to end well.

Now I'm seeing that the lifespan of several countries has decreased because of Covid and other such things, including flooding, etc. (Oh well.)

 

[Trailblazer]

I figure it's the same as this life has been.

I believe it is the same as this life in some ways, but different in other ways.

 

[Trailblazer]

OK, let me ask you this, because I thought about what you said, and the scripture comes to mind that says in my flesh shall I see God. So is there spiritual flesh?

What is the scripture that says in your flesh you shall see God?

Yes, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, but this does not mean that there will not be those who benefit FROM that kingdom. I know it may be hard for some to understand, but that's ok. There are kings (in the kingdom of God) and there are those under the auspices of those kings of righteousness along with Jesus.

I am not following you. Benefit from what kingdom?