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Pagan God's and Goddesses hate radical -monotheism

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Of course, the God's and Goddesses hate any religious extremists of any faith that persecute their followers, so saying "radical Islam " would be Politically Incorrect and unfair since at one time there were Christian governments like Saudi Arabia as well.

Radical-monotheism is not just the greatest enemy of Jews, Christians, homosexuals, women, and Atheists, but also the greatest enemy of Osiris, Zeus, Shiva, Elephant (Hindu) God, Buddha, Fairies and Leprechauns (yes, many people worship them, have seen them, and interact with Fairies and Leprechauns).

Humans can be replaced but those Buddhist Temples cannot. So, if you are pagan, Buddhist, or a witch, no one is your enemy more than radical-monotheism (Today).

Some Christians will say you follow the Devil (I think those Christians are out of line btw ), but in any of the predominately Christian countries today, people will let you live your life ,

, and there are not laws calling for your death or imprisonment if you are caught worshiping many God's, practicing witchcraft, being atheist, being gay etc. That isn't the case with many other non Christian nations.

So, if you believe in Osiris or Odin, I don't see how they could not be at odds with extreme monotheism . If you believe in Fairies or are a necromancer, or into voodoo , you can be sure that all of those spirits are angry at the persecutor of their followers, so invoke many curses to destroy it.

If you are pagan, perhaps one can sick their God's and Godesses on them. Curses, prayers, fasting, hexes, and spells have power!

If you are spiritual in any other way, know that this evil force needs to be destroyed more than any other, for it oppresses more people like yourself than any other philosophy or institution.

Radical-monotheism is not just Isis, Taliban, El shabab, Boko Harem, Al-Qaeda , or some other terrorist group.

The Saudi Government (America's Alli ) is also an extremist Nation , along with any other Nation where adulterers are stoned to death, people are publicly decapitated, homosexuals are murdered and thrown from the tops of mosques, or imprisoned or executed for practicing or preaching a different Faith or blasphemy.

Any nation that arrests or sexually assaults women for dressing a certain way, doesn't let them leave the house without a man's permission, doesn't let them get educated, doesn't let them Drive, or stones them to death, is an extremist nation and Religion.

Those types of Crusades and inquisitions are currently affecting hundreds of millions of people in our world, depriving many of free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of sexuality, freedom to question and learn, women's equality.

I'm not just singling muslims out, for if a Catholic government were to rise up and Outlaw Free Speech, women's equality, freedom of religion, freedom to be Atheist, and freedom to blaspheme , that Government should be recognized as a Nazi Dictatorship, sanctioned by the free -world , and overthrown.

Also, monotheistic-extremists are not only the greatest enemy of women, homosexuals, pagans, witches, sorcerers, shamans, necromancers, atheists, Christians, and Jews, but also are responsible for the deaths of Muslims (more than any other religion, regime, or hate -group )

They persecute, terrorize, and slaughter the moderate muslims. I have nothing against a Muslim who is for women's rights, against stoning or decapitating people, against amputating limbs or female genital mutilation, against terrorism, against Jihad, against forced dress code, against killing homosexuals , against intolerance toward other faiths, or forcing Religion on people.

Christians who do those things are even more disgusting, because those behaviors are the exact opposite of what Christ repeatedly told people to do and not to do.

But at this time I don't see radical Christians getting control of governments and persecuting everyone that isn't Christian.

However, the problem is not just Islam but radical Monotheism. I see nothing more nauseating in our modern, enlightened world. Yes I have met extremist Christians and it puts toxic chemicles in my bloodstream + makes me want to vomit
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
I was really ticked off to see those ancient irreplaceable temples and artifacts destroyed and I've seen such things done by other groups in my lifetime that were not Isis.

I literally think there should be military intervention to protect the pyramids if Egypt goes radical-mono.

. If the polytheistic gods and goddesses exist, of course they hate radical-monotheism.

That doesn't mean they hate the people , but they hate the behavior , No Doubt!

I'm just saying, if you are a Pagan, maybe through prayer and fasting there are ways that you can empower the enemies of radical monotheism in the spirit realm through blessings, Curses, fasting, seances , voodoo, whatever, to crush this evil that is occupying so much of the world.

It isn't good to hate people, but it is good to hate evil. You can hate a person's Behavior while still pitying and loving the poor depraved bankrupt soul committing the atrocities.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
If you want to make an argument against "radical monotheism" (I'm not sure what that is), please leave the baseless claims about the gods out of it.
By radical monotheism I mean extremists who believed in one God and believe in outlawing the worship of multiple gods or oppressing those who worship multiple gods and destroying their gods and temples.

I'm not saying all supernatural deities hate the people that commit these atrocities, but they still hate the behavior and the destruction of their temples and followers
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Okay, I'll change the wording, radical monotheistic groups (radicals who believe in one God and that all the other gods are evil ) are the greatest enemy and opressor of Pagans, wiccans, necromancers, shamans, Buddhists, Hindus, and other Polytheists.

Therefore, if they don't hate these extremist ideologies that come predominantly from monotheistic faiths, at least they recognize them as the greatest enemy and threat to their followers
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Elephant (Hindu) God,

His name is Ganesha. ;)

Buddha, Fairies and Leprechauns (yes, many people worship them, have seen them, and interact with Fairies and Leprechauns).

We Heathens call them Elves.

Humans can be replaced

No. Humans are irreplaceable. There is only one of every single individual human out there, only one of every single family...

but those Buddhist Temples cannot.

...while those Temples can be rebuilt.

If Daesh were to attack Stonehenge (which would be admittedly difficult because I understand it's on military-owned land), then it could be rebuilt, just like it already has been elsewhere. Twice.

So, if you are pagan, Buddhist, or a witch, no one is your enemy more than radical-monotheism (Today).

While yes, radicals could be considered our "enemy" today, I will remind ye that it was not a radical monotheist who burnt the Great Library of Alexandria.

If you are pagan, perhaps one can sick their God's and Godesses on them. Curses, prayers, fasting, hexes, and spells have power!

Yes, yes they do. And that's why we shouldn't just use them willy-nilly on people we don't like.

It's common wisdom that spells done improperly or recklessly have a tendency to backfire, and backfire HARD.

You need to be careful, also, when it comes to assuming what the various Gods and Goddesses do or do not "like."

If you are spiritual in any other way, know that this evil force needs to be destroyed more than any other, for it oppresses more people like yourself than any other philosophy or institution.

...do you realize how chilling and foreboding this kind of statement truly comes off as?

Radical-monotheism is not just Isis,

Call them Daesh, if you please. Let's stop sullying the good name of Kemet's Mother.

Taliban, El shabab, Boko Harem, Al-Qaeda , or some other terrorist group.

...
However, the problem is not just Islam but radical Monotheism. I see nothing more nauseating in our modern, enlightened world.

I do. I see something that not just makes me sick, but chills me to the bone, and makes me far more afraid than Daesh ever could.

There are Heathens out there who are waging a vigilante war on innocent people in Woden's name. They may not be as dangerous as Daesh, and they're not (yet) a direct danger to me or my kith and kin, but they are closer to home.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
By radical monotheism I mean extremists who believed in one God and believe in outlawing the worship of multiple gods or oppressing those who worship multiple gods and destroying their gods and temples.

I'd use a different term for that: militantly exclusivist monotheism.
Makes it a bit more clear.


I'm not saying all supernatural deities hate the people that commit these atrocities, but they still hate the behavior and the destruction of their temples and followers

I simply do not believe that it is your place to make this claim, and through my understanding of the gods as a polytheist, this is simply wrong. Most of the gods I worship are not capable of experiencing affects like "hate" and therefore do not "hate" anything. Furthermore, considering there are gods who delight in destruction, warfare, and suffering, it is not hard for me to imagine gods that not only do not hate this behavior but celebrate it.


Okay, I'll change the wording, radical monotheistic groups (radicals who believe in one God and that all the other gods are evil ) are the greatest enemy and opressor of Pagans, wiccans, necromancers, shamans, Buddhists, Hindus, and other Polytheists.

That has not been my experience, nor is it something I would conclude.


Therefore, if they don't hate these extremist ideologies that come predominantly from monotheistic faiths, at least they recognize them as the greatest enemy and threat to their followers

We what now? No, I don't recognize them as some great enemy or threat. They're pretty darned low on my list of concerns.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
His name is Ganesha. ;)



We Heathens call them Elves.



No. Humans are irreplaceable. There is only one of every single individual human out there, only one of every single family...



...while those Temples can be rebuilt.

If Daesh were to attack Stonehenge (which would be admittedly difficult because I understand it's on military-owned land), then it could be rebuilt, just like it already has been elsewhere. Twice.



While yes, radicals could be considered our "enemy" today, I will remind ye that it was not a radical monotheist who burnt the Great Library of Alexandria.



Yes, yes they do. And that's why we shouldn't just use them willy-nilly on people we don't like.

It's common wisdom that spells done improperly or recklessly have a tendency to backfire, and backfire HARD.

You need to be careful, also, when it comes to assuming what the various Gods and Goddesses do or do not "like."



...do you realize how chilling and foreboding this kind of statement truly comes off as?



Call them Daesh, if you please. Let's stop sullying the good name of Kemet's Mother.



I do. I see something that not just makes me sick, but chills me to the bone, and makes me far more afraid than Daesh ever could.

There are Heathens out there who are waging a vigilante war on innocent people in Woden's name. They may not be as dangerous as Daesh, and they're not (yet) a direct danger to me or my kith and kin, but they are closer to home.
When I said this evil force must be destroyed , I wasn't speaking of declaring a crusade against any sort of religion,

,but evil Governments, regimes , and ideologies destroy the lives of hundreds of millions of people in our present world, and if we sit back and do not fight evil, that is all that evil requires of us to gain victory .

Also, the reason I didn't call the elephant God by name is because I figured people wouldn't know who I was talking about.

I wanted to make sure they got a picture of that beautiful elephant in their imagination. :)

The Fae folk revealed themselves to me April 28th 2016, I became a firm believer and I go out into the woods and flowers where they dwell , sing, leave offerings (that I quickly eaten by birds and squirrels,) and bond with the creatures of the woodland.

Guess im a heathen.

It's pretty cool now that I can never look at a garden or flowers without the awareness that the Fae folk may be watching :)

Also started picking up trash a lot when I started believing in the Fae. Ya don't wanna get on their bad side.

I grabbed a mother duck off her nest to make a YouTube video for some girl , and the phone never could charge after that and had to buy a new one.

I knew the Fae were ticked at me :D

But the mamma duck and her chicks are all okay, thanks be to Gawd!
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
War Gods very well might love Daesh and similar groups. Gives their followers something to do.

I suppose I should amend what I said to "it's not hard for me to imagine" to "I've had direct experiences with gods like this to the point that I don't really question that this is the case." :D

Granted, others don't have to accept any of those personal experiences for themselves...
 

lovesong

:D
Premium Member
I have to agree with your idea of "radical monotheism," but I'll take it a step further and say it hurts everyone. Yes, it does hurt the minorities, but it also hurts the non-extremests, the non-fundies, everyone who isn't part of their "my way or the highway" group.

So, if you believe in Osiris or Odin, you better believe they hate radical monotheism.
Well I'm sure most aren't happy about it, but I wouldn't say they all hate it with such a passion. I'm sure some are just mildly frustrated, or have gotten over it by now. Hell, maybe some are happy they don't have to deal with so many followers anymore! :p And don't forget the gods of war who are probably just giddy to see this much fighting going on.

If you are pagan, perhaps one can sick their God's and Godesses on them. Curses, prayers, fasting, hexes, and spells have power!
You don't stick your gods on people, that's rude. You ask the gods to assist you in something, politely, and hope that they choose to help you out.

If you believe in Fairies or are a necromancer, or into voodoo , you can be sure that all of those spirits hate it, so invoke many curses to destroy it.
Sorry, but you're wrong about the spirits, if we're talking about human ones. That's like saying all people must hate it. In the afterlife some continue to hate is while others love it, just as they did during life. When brought back to this world through necromancy, the dead portray only vague emotion, and it usually reflects the circumstances of their death or the end of their life. No current events involved.

If you are spiritual in any other way, know that this evil force needs to be destroyed more than any other, for it oppresses more people like yourself than any other philosophy or institution.
It oppresses more than our philosophies, it oppresses philosophy, period. Radical any religion is the enemy of free thought. Lets not make it all about us.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
When I said this evil force must be destroyed , I wasn't speaking of declaring a crusade against any sort of religion,

,but evil Governments, regimes , and ideologies destroy the lives of hundreds of millions of people in our present world, and if we sit back and do not fight evil, that is all that evil requires of us to gain victory .

Oh, obviously ignoring them is no good, either.

But when you call them evil, you are inherently dehumanizing them. When you forget that everyone committing these atrocities are as human as the rest of us, you run the risk of returning like with like.

Besides, a "Common Enemy" is one of the single most useful tools for fascist regimes. It's the very thing that's motivating Daesh to do what they do.

Also, the reason I didn't call the elephant God by name is because I figured people wouldn't know who I was talking about.

On this religious forum, assume that everyone reading will know who Ganesha is. He's pretty well-known even outside of Hinduism.

The Fae folk revealed themselves to me April 28th 2016, I became a firm believer and I go out into the woods and flowers where they dwell , sing, leave offerings (that I quickly eaten by birds and squirrels,) and bond with the creatures of the woodland.

Guess im a heathen.

With a lowercase h, perhaps. But understand that with an uppercase H, Heathen means someone who worships the Germanic Gods. Calling them "Fae" implies are more Celtic-esque or Neo-Pagan leaning.

It's pretty cool now that I can never look at a garden or flowers without the awareness that the Fae folk may be watching :)

Also started picking up trash a lot when I started believing in the Fae. Ya don't wanna get on their bad side.

'Tis true, 'tis true.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
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Osiris Apis is my buddy. Some girl I was talking to was Spanish and the bull is the symbol for Spain, but she was also a Taurus, so I let her know that Osiris apis is a bull like her ,

, and shared a song about cats and various coincidences involving cats before knowing she happened to have a cat named Osiris, which lead to a very endearing friendship with her and one of her friends.

It was totally the work of Osiris. My buddy! :D

And im pretty sure he's pissed at anyone who wants to destroy his reputation, persecute his followers, or destroy his shrines
images
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
War Gods very well might love Daesh and similar groups. Gives their followers something to do.
No, I don't think so. Daesh essentially hates all God's that are not their God of Abraham, so any shrines to Woden or a Warrior god are going to be despized and destroyed, as well as their followers.

I think Woden wants to be acknowledged and worshipped , and is offended by those who destroy the people and artwork that honors him, or outlaw devotion to him, therefore would want Daesh, and all extremist Faiths that dishonor and attack him in such a way , to be destroyed.

(my opinion :)

Regarding a person who communes with Spirits or the deceased , if that person is imprisoned, persecuted, enslaved, or executed for not adhering to an abrahamic faith, I would think that the spirits who are fond of that person would be very upset.

Spirits can make people sick or kill them and spoil their crops and such
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I was really ticked off to see those ancient irreplaceable temples and artifacts destroyed and I've seen such things done by other groups in my lifetime that were not Isis.

I literally think there should be military intervention to protect the pyramids if Egypt goes radical-mono.

. If the polytheistic gods and goddesses exist, of course they hate radical-monotheism.

That doesn't mean they hate the people , but they hate the behavior , No Doubt!

I'm just saying, if you are a Pagan, maybe through prayer and fasting there are ways that you can empower the enemies of radical monotheism in the spirit realm through blessings, Curses, fasting, seances , voodoo, whatever, to crush this evil that is occupying so much of the world.

It isn't good to hate people, but it is good to hate evil. You can hate a person's Behavior while still pitying and loving the poor depraved bankrupt soul committing the atrocities.

I'm trying to follow you here. Are you saying our gods are mad at monotheism because of the hate and behavior of people who follow it (monotheism)?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I'm trying to follow you here. Are you saying our gods are mad at monotheism because of the hate and behavior of people who follow it (monotheism)?
Radical Monotheism.... I explained what I meant. People that persecute n kill polytheists (especially when done legally), outlaw polytheism, and destroy temples, shrines, and artwork that is not of an Abrahamic faith.

I think it angers the God's. Why wouldn't it?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I'm no expert on the tempremant, clemency, patience, and mercy of Pagan Dieties, but know enough about them that you don't want to **** them off!

Not even the wee witto Fae folk :p

According to folklore, gods can afflict people with diseases, cause droughts , thunderstorms, infertility, pestilence, spoiled milk and food, earthquakes, floods, plagues, civil discord and whatever else....

Perhaps the gods are using America and NATO bombs to rain down fire from heaven! :D

Yes, I also think the gods and goddesses that want women's equality and gay rights are extremely angry at governments like Saudi Arabia.

They certainly aren't happy about it. It's atrocious crimes against humanity and bigotry to the core!

...Done in the name of a God and Religion that hates Polytheism to the core.

I hope im not making the gods sound fascist. That isn't my intent :p
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Radical Monotheism.... I explained what I meant. People that persecute n kill polytheists (especially when done legally), outlaw polytheism, and destroy temples, shrines, and artwork that is not of an Abrahamic faith.

I think it angers the God's. Why wouldn't it?

It would probably anger some of the Pagan gods, but god of Abraham has destroyed a lot of polytheistic religions in the Bible. I think it would have made him sorrowful (going by the bible); and, not forgiving, though. I don't know about the Quran; and, I assume likewise.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
It would probably anger some of the Pagan gods, but god of Abraham has destroyed a lot of polytheistic religions in the Bible. I think it would have made him sorrowful (going by the bible); and, not forgiving, though. I don't know about the Quran; and, I assume likewise.
Well the simple fact of the matter is Jesus preached the opposite of the barbaric practices in the Old Testament.

Yes, I am sickened by much of what I read in the OT. A lot of Christians are.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Well the simple fact of the matter is Jesus preached the opposite of the barbaric practices in the Old Testament.

Yes, I am sickened by much of what I read in the OT. A lot of Christians are.

Hey it's your Bible, to put it bluntly. Maybe try to reconcile it as many do by saying the OT is not relevant anymore. Jesus "canceled out" the anger of the OT god by his giving his son as a love and sacrifice in the new.

See it as a reflection of each other? "Then" and "Now"
 
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