Pagan God's and Goddesses hate radical -monotheism

[Spiderman]

Just because He's my Dad doesn't mean I have to like him. o. There's a lot of things I like about God. Other things about him I just can't stand.

But Scripture makes it clear that by our intercession and fasting, we can get him to change his mind. So, just cuz I don't like him , doesn't mean I give up on him either

 

[Spiderman]

Also, I can still love my Father but despize or disagree with some of what he does or fails to do.

Also, just because I'm hypercritical of his behavior, my understanding is very limited, so some of the things in this world that are very ugly, could actually be for the greater good.

Lazarus was filled with sores, had no friends but the dogs that licked his sores , he ate somebody else's trash, was chronically suffering, and in the end, the evil he received in this life gave him more comfort and glory in the next.

So, it could be that a lot of these people that are experiencing the worst atrocities , will actually be grateful for it in the end.

Meaning, just because I'm angry at God, that doesn't mean im not closed to the likely possibility that I'm wrong , and God is right, and will realize that someday

 

[Vinayaka]

My God doesn't get angry.

 

[Riverwolf]

No, I don't think so. Daesh essentially hates all God's that are not their God of Abraham, so any shrines to Woden or a Warrior god are going to be despized and destroyed, as well as their followers.

I think Woden wants to be acknowledged and worshipped , and is offended by those who destroy the people and artwork that honors him, or outlaw devotion to him, therefore would want Daesh, and all extremist Faiths that dishonor and attack him in such a way , to be destroyed.

You think this because you don't understand much about Woden. Or that place called Valhalla that his devotees generally seek, which can ONLY be achieved with a death in combat. Daesh is basically giving Woden LOTS of new guests, from among their own ranks and their victims.

It is, in fact, also known from Lore that Woden is not averse to killing his own followers.

(These are some of the reasons why I don't really work with Woden very much.)

You assume things about him based on a preconception about the Gods that's simply not always the case. Remember that widespread worship of the Esan has been gone for nigh unto a thousand years. Thor's Oak was felled and the Christian who did it faced no consequence in this life for that.

Polytheism IRL is nothing like Dungeons and Dragons polytheism.

(my opinion

Regarding a person who communes with Spirits or the deceased , if that person is imprisoned, persecuted, enslaved, or executed for not adhering to an abrahamic faith, I would think that the spirits who are fond of that person would be very upset.

Spirits can make people sick or kill them and spoil their crops and such

It might make sense at first, but the truth is we don't know. The Gods are well-known to say one thing to one follower, and say a completely contradictory thing to a different follower.

 

[Spiderman]

@Riverwolf
Thanks for speaking about Thor's oak, because in jail for some reason when I would pray to the Swedish saints, I would see a chalice of oak.

And so to me, oak began to represents Sweden. Well, Thor is son of Odin, and Odin is a Scandinavian God.

Well, yesterday I caught a Raven, which is very symbolic to me more than other birds, because it was a raven that fed Elijah and St. Benedict, and I had a friend named Raven Stevens that committed suicide ,who had a raven on his Tombstone ,

, that I used to pray before, and have reason to believe Raven Stevens fed me in jail, while I was praying a Novena to Elijah.

Well, because you mentioned Thor's oak, it lead me to look him up and find out that his father was Odin, who is known as the " Raven God. "

In my YouTube , yesterday, while holding a Raven, I mention that the Ravens could pluck my eye out if it wanted to. In the Odin Icon, he has his eye plucked out and a raven nearby.

A young man at my Sober House was playing a prank on me after that with the text messaging , claiming to be a hermaphrodite.

When he told me he was playing a prank, it reminded me that crows symbolize pranksters, and the crow was put in my path for a reason.

The Man who played the prank was the one who recently told me about the "sons of Odin," Who Are a group from Scandinavia trying to combat the immigration.

Thor is son of Odin , and the word Thursday comes from Thor's day. It is his day today.

I'd not have known any of that had you not mentioned Thor's Oak. Thank you.

The Gods speak through coincidence

Now that I know Osiris, Odin, and Thor are real and in my life, I hope and pray Molech stays far away!

Anyhow, here is the YouTube of the Raven / crow found yesterday

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Odin (Woden in English ):

 

[Spiderman]

Oh crazy, yesterday , Wednesday, when I caught the Raven , was Wodensday.

Now the first day I research Thor is Thor's day.... There is no way this is coincidence in view of the many coincidences and dreams I've been having lately.

Good bye Catholicism, I think Jesus wants me to join Woden....at least for now

I still acknowledge Jesus as greater than these other Gods ,but they are speaking to me a lot more than he does, so I guess im not Catholic anymore, and God wills it, and I believe he made them and is entertained by it.

There is a lot of Catholicism I'll still practice, but the Church condemns worshipping pagan Dieties.

However, I don't worship them. Communication with someone and comradery isn't worship

 

[Spiderman]

Was talking into an Android and screwd up some of the words in those posts. Just edited it.

The only God I studied much of was Osiris Apis (when he was a Bull) because the Bull kept showing up in prayers, meditations, media, TV, and other things.

Then he brought me into friendship with two really special girls. Never worshipped Osiris , just thought of him more as a very powerful pet.

Other than that , I prayed to the faithful Departed and starting April 28, believed in the Fae folk, but Osiris Apis was the first Pagan Diety I acknowledged as being real and helpful to invoke.

Pretty sure now Thor and Odin have arrived for whatever reason. I just happen to be Swedish and German too, and the football team here is called the Vikings because of the high Scandinavian population, and he was a viking God.

 

[Riverwolf]

@Riverwolf
Thanks for speaking about Thor's oak, because in jail for some reason when I would pray to the Swedish saints, I would see a chalice of oak.

And so to me, oak began to represents Sweden. Well, Thor is son of Odin, and Odin is a Scandinavian God.

Both Woden and Thunder are pan-Germanic Gods; Odin and Thor are the Anglicization of their Scandinavian names.

Incidentally, historically speaking the deity that was probably most important to the pre-Christian Swedes wasn't either Odin or Thor, but their progenitor. That same deity is also our (English) progenitor, and is for all others who are Ingwine. That deity being Ing, who has also been called Frea in English, and Freyr in Norse.

Well, yesterday I caught a Raven, which is very symbolic to me more than other birds, because it was a raven that fed Elijah and St. Benedict, and I had a friend named Raven Stevens that committed suicide ,who had a raven on his Tombstone ,

, that I used to pray before, and have reason to believe Raven Stevens fed me in jail, while I was praying a Novena to Elijah.

Well, because you mentioned Thor's oak, it lead me to look him up and find out that his father was Odin, who is known as the " Raven God. "

In my YouTube , yesterday, while holding a Raven, I mention that the Ravens could pluck my eye out if it wanted to. In the Odin Icon, he has his eye plucked out and a raven nearby.

A young man at my Sober House was playing a prank on me after that with the text messaging , claiming to be a hermaphrodite.

When he told me he was playing a prank, it reminded me that crows symbolize pranksters, and the crow was put in my path for a reason.

The Man who played the prank was the one who recently told me about the "sons of Odin," Who Are a group from Scandinavia trying to combat the immigration.

Thor is son of Odin , and the word Thursday comes from Thor's day. It is his day today.

I'd not have known any of that had you not mentioned Thor's Oak. Thank you.

The Gods speak through coincidence

No problem. Incidentally, those "Sons of Odin" are the group I spoke of earlier who frighten me. Far as I'm concerned, they're just bullies. Regardless of my opinion on the current situation with refugees and immigrants, I do not support them or their activities (and it's of no concern to me whether or not Woden does.)

Now that I know Osiris, Odin, and Thor are real and in my life, I hope and pray Molech stays far away!

Anyhow, here is the YouTube of the Raven / crow found yesterday

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Odin (Woden in English ):

 

[Spiderman]

Wait so Odin is not the same entity as Woden?

Pretty sure that isn't what you meant, but just thought I would ask.

 

[lovesong]

Regarding a person who communes with Spirits or the deceased , if that person is imprisoned, persecuted, enslaved, or executed for not adhering to an abrahamic faith, I would think that the spirits who are fond of that person would be very upset.

Spirits can make people sick or kill them and spoil their crops and such

Do you work with the dead? Because it seems that we have very different understandings of how they manifest. If a necromancer forms a deep connection with a specific spirit, that does not mean that the spirit will automatically hate everything the necromancer hates. When you make a friend, do you always agree on everything? The dead are not there to protect us, they simply help us (or get bossed around by us, depending on how polite we want to be), because we persuade them to. We pull them from the final after (or the astral plane, or both, there is some debate about this) and bind them back to this world where they suffer trying to exist for the short period of time we demand of them. The dead (unless a serious bond is formed) do not care about us anymore than you care about the next person who passes you on the street. Just because we have worked together does not mean they have any drive to care about the things that plague my life. As for your last bit, you would be thinking of spirits in the more Shamanic sense, or perhaps demons. Either way these are not spirits of the dead who do this. At times the energy of death or a very livened astral corpse can linger and grow in an area, causing those who encounter it to "see a ghost" or have a "paranormal experience," but these things aren't sentient, and they cause no intentional harm, other than, you know, spreading death energy.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Of course, the God's and Goddesses hate any religious extremists of any faith that persecute their followers, so saying "radical Islam " would be Politically Incorrect and unfair since at one time there were Christian governments like Saudi Arabia as well.

This is a great example of one of the more obvious kinds of hubris - claiming to know the minds of gods.

By radical monotheism I mean extremists who believed in one God and believe in outlawing the worship of multiple gods or oppressing those who worship multiple gods and destroying their gods and temples.

I'm not saying all supernatural deities hate the people that commit these atrocities, but they still hate the behavior and the destruction of their temples and followers

That's a tautology. Monotheists who destroy the temples and images of 'false gods' aren't being radical. They're being true to the definition of monotheism - that only one god deserves worship.

 

[Spiderman]

Do you work with the dead? Because it seems that we have very different understandings of how they manifest. If a necromancer forms a deep connection with a specific spirit, that does not mean that the spirit will automatically hate everything the necromancer hates. When you make a friend, do you always agree on everything? The dead are not there to protect us, they simply help us (or get bossed around by us, depending on how polite we want to be), because we persuade them to. We pull them from the final after (or the astral plane, or both, there is some debate about this) and bind them back to this world where they suffer trying to exist for the short period of time we demand of them. The dead (unless a serious bond is formed) do not care about us anymore than you care about the next person who passes you on the street. Just because we have worked together does not mean they have any drive to care about the things that plague my life. As for your last bit, you would be thinking of spirits in the more Shamanic sense, or perhaps demons. Either way these are not spirits of the dead who do this. At times the energy of death or a very livened astral corpse can linger and grow in an area, causing those who encounter it to "see a ghost" or have a "paranormal experience," but these things aren't sentient, and they cause no intentional harm, other than, you know, spreading death energy.

I work with the dead and commune with them almost nonstop. I make pilgrimages to the tombs of holy people or just go to cemeteries in general to commune with ordinary people,

, write letters to them, chant and write songs for them.

Some are canonized , others not. I Fast for them, ask them to bless certain items, offer up my sufferings and labors to them, ( they seem to really like it when I sing their names ) , empty and still my mind for them, but you and I have a different theology.

The christocentric theology regarding it comes from scripture that says we are all branches of the True Vine,

, that we are one body in Christ, and when a person dies they do not cease to be a member of the body of Christ, but they are more perfect and powerful,

, and we are connected to them because the same holy spirit that dwells in us dwells in them. They are one with God, so they shared his concerns, and they are concerned about us.

I liken it to sending text messages from my heart to theirs.

They take me far away and give me energy when depressed and consolation when I get suicidal.

To each their own

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

That's a tautology. Monotheists who destroy the temples and images of 'false gods' aren't being radical. They're being true to the definition of monotheism - that only one god deserves worship.

No, the definition of monotheism is that only one god exists. Anything beyond that is superfluous.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

No, the definition of monotheism is that only one god exists. Anything beyond that is superfluous.

Right, of course.

 

[Spiderman]

That's a tautology. Monotheists who destroy the temples and images of 'false gods' aren't being radical. They're being true to the definition of monotheism - that only one god deserves worship.

Not true. Believing in one God doesn't mean you have to oppress those who don't.

A lot of monotheists believe what Jesus said the entire law is, love God and love your neighbor as yourself.

Alot of Christians believe they should follow what Christ commanded about love your enemies, turn the other cheek, do not commit violence, forgiveness etc.

 

[Riverwolf]

Wait so Odin is not the same entity as Woden?

Is Woden the same entity as the Celtic God Lugus? I mean, they share several traits in common. But that might imply that Woden's original "name" might have been a cognate of the word "Loki", the name of Odin's Blood Brother. But they're two different beings, right?

If Woden is frequently associated with Kings and Nobles, why is he frequently depicted as a Vagabond? Nowadays he's thought of as masculine, and yet he practiced seithr, which was considered "unmanly."

He's a God of War and is capable of granting victory... so why did his worship dwindle in the wake of Christianity?

And was he really as popular as is frequently stated? Or was he simply popular among those who were writing things down?

I would be weary of going down this Rabbit Hole. It goes deep, and you will not emerge without scars.

 

[Spiderman]

So, a crow symbolizes a prankster , and shortly after catching the crow, a boy from our house played a prank on me....

He taught me recently who the "sons of Odin are."

Today that same guy ( my roommate Jack ) is on ABC news for being the first on the scene of a boy who was hit by a vehicle in critical condition, and stopping the blood flow as the paramedics arrived.

I know this is the supernatural speaking, in view of all the coincidences and dreams and inspirations recently.

Odin is "the wanderer" and that is what I do, wander through the wildernesses and cemeteries communing with the unseen world.

If He is trying to contact me it is for a reason and there will be consequences for ignoring the call to destiny.

The reason Odin lost much power and devotion I think is because his maker restrained him for a time and will unleash him in the end times before the second coming.

 

[Riverwolf]

The reason Odin lost much power and devotion I think is because his maker

LOL That's kinda cute. "His maker." You talkin' about Buri? Or maybe Mannus?

Whatever. It's your belief, and you're free to hold it.

 

[Spiderman]

LOL That's kinda cute. "His maker." You talkin' about Buri? Or maybe Mannus?

Whatever. It's your belief, and you're free to hold it.

I think there is something that's restraining him from doing a lot of what he would want to do.

However, his history or Origins and so much can remain a mystery. You don't need to know a person's history or Origins to have friendship with them.

 

[Riverwolf]

I think there is something that's restraining him from doing a lot of what he would want to do.

But why does that have to be "his maker", with references to completely foreign Lore?

Not a single one of the Gods is omnipotent.

And there is one entity I can immediately think of who would have that kind of power over him. But this one is not his "maker".

However, his history or Origins and so much can remain a mystery. You don't need to know a person's history or Origins to have friendship with them.

Indeed.

Do you know the story of Krishna and his wives?