oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
That's made your week, I expect.
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Paid less for doing exactly the same work
- Thread starter David Young
- Start date
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
For exactly the same work, probably not, though only because of the various laws and regulations requiring equal pay in the first place.
The issue isn't limited to that though. There are plenty of circumstances where there are jobs or roles that are traditionally seen as specifically "male" or "female", and remain that way due to social pressure, internal resistance to change or explicit discrimination. The traditional "male" jobs will often be see as more valuable than the traditional "female" jobs solely based on that gender perception, even in in reality they involve equivalent levels of effort, education and skill, and that can obviously continue to impact the pay levels offered and expected of those jobs.
There can be similar issues in any jobs where pay can be or is individually negotiated to some extent, with women tending to be offered less than men in similar positions. While the common comeback on that is that women don't negotiate as aggressively as men (which I'm not sure is a justification, even if true) but I strongly suspect that women who pushed harder for more pay would be seen as argumentative and disruptive when men who do the same are seen as strong and confident.
These are slowly shrinking problems I think, but they certainly haven't been reduced to nothing.
You've made my year!
David Young
Member
The BBC story may need some clarification.
There were two programmes, one a long-running show from the pre-internet days and another more recent one on a digital channel. They both involved reading out emails, and previously letters, from viewers. One was about anything on television and the other was specifically about the news. The presenter of the news programme, who was female, was paid less than the presenter of the television-feedback programme, who was male.
The courts decided that both should be paid the same and that the reason they were not was because of their difference in sex, despite the claims of the BBC's lawyers to the contrary. Incidentally, the male presenter of the BBC's television-feedback programme was paid the same as his predecessor, who was a woman and who had negotiated a higher salary than her predecessor, who was a man.
As for all of the posts that talk about average salaries, read the original post.
There were two programmes, one a long-running show from the pre-internet days and another more recent one on a digital channel. They both involved reading out emails, and previously letters, from viewers. One was about anything on television and the other was specifically about the news. The presenter of the news programme, who was female, was paid less than the presenter of the television-feedback programme, who was male.
The courts decided that both should be paid the same and that the reason they were not was because of their difference in sex, despite the claims of the BBC's lawyers to the contrary. Incidentally, the male presenter of the BBC's television-feedback programme was paid the same as his predecessor, who was a woman and who had negotiated a higher salary than her predecessor, who was a man.
As for all of the posts that talk about average salaries, read the original post.