Palestinians Worst Enemy - Hamas!

[Jayhawker Soule]

Not suprised but a shame.

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[Jayhawker Soule]

Until Palestinians have their own power plant and water treatment plants, until they are self-reliant they need to respect the powers who take care of them.

What despicable condescending drivel.

 

[Kenny]

Also I do pull in other countries. The response of the West to any terrorist attack with invasion is both predictable and disastrous. In fact these terrorists want you guys to invade, as that will swell their recruitment numbers.

You are free to do so. However, I find Shia killin Sunni and Sunni killing Shia - so it makes me wonder if it is really all about “the West”.

I think there is reluctance on part of Israel that is the problem here. If Israel accepted a 2 state solution, creating an international security force to be responsible for the Palestinian state over a 10-15 year period like what happened for West Germany or South Korea or Japan would not have been much of a problem in my view.

History has shown that Israel has tried and the Arab nations have said no.

How Palestine rejected offer to have its own state 5 times in the past - Law and Society Magazine.

If Israel just allowed the Palestinians to have a state of their own, there would be peace in the Middle East, right?That’s what you hear from ambassadors, European diplomats, and most college professors. But what if I told you that Israel has already offered the Palestinians a state of their...

lawandsocietymagazine.com

 

[Kenny]

ethnic cleansing, the attempt to create ethnically homogeneous geographic areas through the deportation or forcible displacement of persons belonging to particular ethnic groups.

That sounds like Palestine completely - certainly not Israel.

Expulsion of Palestinians in 1947/1949 is indeed deemed ethnic cleansing by historians and scholars. I mean how else you are gonna establish a majority of Jews in a Jewish state ?

That was after a war. When thing calmed down, they came back.

Stopped a 2 state solution? I mean that’s just ignorant thing to say, because in 1947 there were more Palestinians then Jews. So 55-45 deal wasn’t fair. So they didn’t stopped rather they didn’t agree in the terms.

How Palestine rejected offer to have its own state 5 times in the past - Law and Society Magazine.

If Israel just allowed the Palestinians to have a state of their own, there would be peace in the Middle East, right?That’s what you hear from ambassadors, European diplomats, and most college professors. But what if I told you that Israel has already offered the Palestinians a state of their...

lawandsocietymagazine.com

Fair enough, I don’t know how much about the weapons that are being used, but from what I know their rockets are not that sophisticated. So maybe you can share what the most expensive rocket launcher they have and the cost of that.

We can safely say that between all the weapons, the manufacturing equipment and infrastructure of underground tunnels, could certainly have made life better for the Palestinians.

You didn’t answer my question?

which one? Sorry.

 

[MayPeaceBeUpOnYou]

That was after a war. When thing calmed down, they came back.

Million Palestinians came back after they were expelled?

How Palestine rejected offer to have its own state 5 times in the past - Law and Society Magazine.

If Israel just allowed the Palestinians to have a state of their own, there would be peace in the Middle East, right?That’s what you hear from ambassadors, European diplomats, and most college professors. But what if I told you that Israel has already offered the Palestinians a state of their...

lawandsocietymagazine.com

Since you are so eager to show that palastinians are the one that doesn’t want peace let’s go with the deals there is mentioned in your link.

The first one. This is the Perl commission right?
I assume you you look into it since you are implying the Palestinians doesn’t want peace. So maybe can you share with me why they rejected this deal!? What were the terms of the deal?

which one? Sorry.

Did the Zionist ethnic cleansed almost a million Palestinians ?

 

[muhammad_isa]

I find Shia killin Sunni and Sunni killing Shia - so it makes me wonder if it is really all about “the West”.

Politics .. Nixon and Kissinger made a secret deal with Saudi, that their oil would only
be traded in dollars, so gone was 'the gold standard', and the birth of the petrodollar.

It is often the case, that nations strive to protect "their interests" in the region.

 

[sayak83]

You are free to do so. However, I find Shia killin Sunni and Sunni killing Shia - so it makes me wonder if it is really all about “the West”.



History has shown that Israel has tried and the Arab nations have said no.

How Palestine rejected offer to have its own state 5 times in the past - Law and Society Magazine.

If Israel just allowed the Palestinians to have a state of their own, there would be peace in the Middle East, right?That’s what you hear from ambassadors, European diplomats, and most college professors. But what if I told you that Israel has already offered the Palestinians a state of their...

lawandsocietymagazine.com

It has nothing to do with Palestine accepting or not. It's about Israel moving back to UN mandated borders of the 2 states, thereby disbanding all settlements beyond those borders, and an International security force coming in to take over the security of the Palestine state till the time the state is functional and current extremism rooted out. Whether PLA accepts or not is irrelevant.

 

[Kenny]

It has nothing to do with Palestine accepting or not. It's about Israel moving back to UN mandated borders of the 2 states, thereby disbanding all settlements beyond those borders, and an International security force coming in to take over the security of the Palestine state till the time the state is functional and current extremism rooted out. Whether PLA accepts or not is irrelevant.

No … it is about a war that Hamas started and Israel is finishing. No country has a right to start a war and then complain when it is loosing the war they started.

The West Bank is another story.

 

[muhammad_isa]

No … it is about a war that Hamas started and Israel is finishing..

It seems to me, that every time Israel "finishes" a war, it creates a greater evil
than previously existed.

Not just regionally, but globally. Thanks for that.

 

[sayak83]

No … it is about a war that Hamas started and Israel is finishing. No country has a right to start a war and then complain when it is loosing the war they started.

The West Bank is another story.

But Hamas is winning and Israel is losing this war. Hamas wants Israel to invade and try to occupy Palestine, increase civillian deaths...so that they get a radicalized population that it can recruit. Hamas is winning hands down.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

It's about Israel moving back to UN mandated borders of the 2 states, ...

When did the U.N. acquire the right to mandate borders?

 

[sayak83]

When did the U.N. acquire the right to mandate borders?

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Starving their own people is their effort to taint Israel through world Public Relations:

Hamas warehouses in Gaza are overflowing with stolen humanitarian aid - N12

“At this point, we have everything... The warehouse is at full capacity," a Hamas terrorist can be heard saying in an intercepted recording.

www.jpost.com

Where is the world outcry?

Probably, to continue the PR fake news, the answer will be… “BUT LOOK AT WHAT ISRAEL IS DOING” to cause people to not see the obvious… the starvation of their own people by Hamas!

Taking all this at face value...

So despite the fact that the Israeli government caused this humanitarian crisis, you think that Hamas mishandling aid meant to relieve the crisis absolves the Israeli government of its guilt?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

When did the U.N. acquire the right to mandate borders?

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia

Thanks for sharing. Now answer the question.

 

[sayak83]

Thanks for sharing. Now answer the question.

You people call them resolution. In India UN resolutions are often called mandates.

 

[Kenny]

Taking all this at face value...

So despite the fact that the Israeli government caused this humanitarian crisis, you think that Hamas mishandling aid meant to relieve the crisis absolves the Israeli government of its guilt?

???

And I thought it was the invasion of Israel that caused the humanitarian crises. Wasn’t it Hamas the chicken that laid the egg? If Hamas spent all the money they received on improving Palestine instead of causing a war, would there be any crisis?

It would be like saying “It was England that created the humanitarian crisis when it bombed Germany”!

 

[metis]

???

And I thought it was the invasion of Israel that caused the humanitarian crises. Wasn’t it Hamas the chicken that laid the egg? If Hamas spent all the money they received on improving Palestine instead of causing a war, would there be any crisis?

It would be like saying “It was England that created the humanitarian crisis when it bombed Germany”!

And if Hamas stopped fighting this conflict would be over-- period.