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Pam Bondi next up for Attorney General.

We Never Know

No Slack
You may or not remember Pam Bondi as the Attorney General of Florida who decided not to pursue charges against Trump University after a considerable donation to her political campaign.

Well, she is probably more qualified than Gaetz, but certainly no less corrupt.
She's a cutie. But she better beware cause Trump may try to grab her kitty :catface:
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Started with Obama's IRS targeting conservative non profit groups, that was proven.
Conservatives claimed that they were specifically targeted by the IRS, but an exhaustive report released by the Treasury Department's Inspector General in 2017 found that from 2004 to 2013, the IRS used both conservative and liberal keywords to choose targets for further scrutiny. (Wikipedia)
Investigating catholic churches without cause, that was proven.
The Department of Justice released a report to Congress on Thursday that concluded that the analysts who created an internal memo linking traditionalist Catholics to violent extremists “failed to adhere to FBI standards” but showed no evidence of “malicious intent.”

Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s 10-page report found no evidence that anyone ordered either of the unidentified analysts who authored the memo to find a link between racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists (RMVEs) and members of any religion or political affiliation. The report concluded there was no “underlying policy direction” indicating a link.

“We also found no evidence that Analyst 1 or 2 took investigative steps beyond searching FBI and other databases to obtain information for the [memo],” the report said. (National Catholic Register)
Spying on Trump's 2016 campaign, that was proven.
As part of a large and baseless conspiracy theory, Donald Trump posited that Barack Obama had spied on him, [1] which Trump described as "the biggest political crime in American history, by far." (Wikipedia)

I urge you to look in particular at the word "baseless" in the above.
Colluding with twitter to censor speech, that was proven. Investigating parents at school board meetings, that was proven. This is not just a DOJ problem but a systemic problem in the federal government. My god they even instituted a Disinformation Governance Board what could go wrong with that?
I'm not going to research the rest, because what I've discovered is that for you, "that has been proven" means that a right-wing source says "it's so." That declaration appears to be "Gospel Truth" to you -- and far too often it is not.
What has she been convicted of?
I did not say she had been convicted of anything. My reference was to Donald Trump, who has, in fact, been convicted of 34 felony counts. Now, I know you think that somehow Democrats managed to suborn not only a Grand Jury, but also all of the jurors (and alternates) that were empanelled in Trump's NY trial. I'll bet you suspect that Trump's defense counsel were all drugged or paid off to not fight very hard. I think, however, you'll have a wildly difficult time finding any evidence at all of such rubbish.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
We need a clarification on the meaning of "weaponization," when used by Republicans in context of the Department of Justice.

When DOJ investigates, indicts, tries and gets conviction of criminals of all sorts, it is doing its job.

"Weaponization" is when DOJ investigates, indicts, tries and gets conviction of criminals who are Republican notables.

In announcing Bondi's nomination, Trump said, "Pam will refocus the DOJ to its intended purpose of fighting crime," but he left out the important caveat that it must be "non-Republican crime."
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Good points, but not complete, I think. There is more and more "tribalism" going on, for example. This is something that, if the human race can't get past, will condemn us to endless strife. Until we can identify as "human," and not white, black, brown, yellow; not Christian, Jain, atheist, Muslim or Baha'i; not straight, gay, bi, trans, asexual; nor any of the multitude of ways we divide "us" from "them;"

Then we are likely to be a failed species and one day go extinct -- probably because we'll nuke ourselves -- as so many distopian novels suggest -- out of existence.

Evolution is science, it works, it explains more than most of us can even begin to understand. But if we can't evolve to that next step, then our intelligence (i.e. our ability to create science that can destroy everything) will be our end -- because we won't know how not to use that science to actually do it!

If humanity is to survive, it will only be because of humans that can actually accept all other humans -- in all their diversity -- as "us." Then, we'd have a chance. Until then, consider us doomed.

(Edited to add: a bit tipsy when I've been writing this. Sorry. But I feel like I'm being honest.)
I have become death . . . the destroyer of worlds.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I'm going off the top of my head here, and since you aren't giving many details I'll respond the best I can trying to interpret your bias.
Started with Obama's IRS targeting conservative non profit groups, that was proven.
This was in response to there being many religious groups forming non-profits but doing political activism instead, and there was increased scrutiny on any new applications, which happened to be right wing. The IRS did admit to applying more scrutiny to these groups, but not because they were right wing, and it was justified since the pattern of activity was a breach of tax laws.
Investigating catholic churches without cause, that was proven.
This rings a bell but I have no idea what the details were since you are being vague.
Spying on Trump's 2016 campaign, that was proven.
False. Trump had 112 meeting with Russians during his 2016 presidential campaign, and many of the people he was meeting with were alredy under surveilance due to security concerns. That Trump happened to be meeting with them was his problem, and also suspicious. No other presidential candidates were meeting with Russians, and at a time when Russia was known to be interfering with that election.
Colluding with twitter to censor speech, that was proven.
No idea what this is. Or are you refering to how the federal government asked private social media companies to honor their terms of service? Not illegal. And it's the sort of oversight that is the purpose of goverment.
Investigating parents at school board meetings, that was proven.
Not sure what this is either. More vague references. Why not put more effort in making your case?
This is not just a DOJ problem but a systemic problem in the federal government.
Thus far the DOJ has done well investigating and prosecuting criminals. You seem to be upset that some of those caught, indicted, and convicted are MAGAs. Too bad. They should stop breaking laws. That includes the criminal president elect.
My god they even instituted a Disinformation Governance Board what could go wrong with that?
No idea what this is either. Is there a list for MAGA Derangement that you can read to get whipped up into a maniacal frenzy?
What has she been convicted of?
Why ask when convictions don't matter to you MAGAs?

But she is corrupt, and perfect as a pick for Trump. These criminal minds better worry about what they do in the next four years because they leave office in 2029. Trump will likely be dead but the rest of these people will be held accountable.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
This is naive. The targeting of conservatives has been going on since Obama. It is well documented.
Targeting conservatives is kinda like how the mob says to the FBI "Why are you targeting Sicilians?"

Your "well documented" must be right wing disinformation that you got duped into believing.
 
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