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Parables series: The Man without his wedding Garment.
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Yahcubs777
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Same to you. Thank you for contributing to the thread.
Yahcubs777
Active Member
Heaven is not a ghost world, its a physical realm. No man can enter heaven without his physical body. Simply put: Elijah body never died; he never departed from his body; his body never became dust; he transfigured in life.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Yes, I do understand.
There are groups of believers here who do not evangelise, in fact I can think of one group which is closed to converts.
And I like to read about what you believe......
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Hi Tony......
Fair enough.
But I have to trust myself to interpret the gospels, etc, because my Deity is just vast in being but far too huge to be thinking of this spec of dust.
But I do my best to follow the guidance of Mother Nature, my Deity's on planet overseer. Oh boy do I try and listen to her!
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I was thinking....his silence.....when questioned
did him in
Yahcubs777
Active Member
No, it is parable that reveals what it means to be born again.. That is why those false preachers for the last 2000 years have never been close to deciphering HIS parables; for their mindset of salvation is wrong. If they had understood that GOD is the highest physician, what it means to be made whole... and mortality is the sin that we are all born in; a disease that slowly kills... If they understood what it means: GOD made man in HIS image and after HIS likeness, they would have seen that the way the story about the Garden of Eden was written is literal, and fails to bring out the truth of that "beginning"...
Being born again is not a confession; its not a belief in the Son of GOD, and confessing HIS lordship over your life... confessing that HE died on the cross for your sins, and resurrected and is seated at the right hand of the father... That message is nonsense. Being born again is actually dealing with the mortal nature in life, by subduing it, overthrowing it; immortalising the physical body in life. That is what it means "Without the shedding of blood there can be no remission of sins"...
And i am in awe, and humble admiration of the height of impregnability of the GOD who did not reveal this secret until this day. So that those who grope in darkness, will manifest themselves for all to see, that they were never called, sent or chosen, never led, nor taught by the GOD... That height of impregnability that set the stage for their deeds to be manifested before sending the one HE called the Spirit of truth to restore all things, to blot out the mistranslations, mistransmissions, and misinterpretations in the bible; the eternal corrections that are heaven sent. If it did not happen this way, the enemies of the Mankind race would have succeeded in stealing the message,making it much more difficult to identify the one GOD sent. For not all was written in the bible that we needed to know. So the one GOD sent will also have insight; an insiders report into the kingdom, the citizens of the kingdom, the anatomy of those citizens, the way of life in heaven, how the kingdom is, and so much more about the kingdom but most importantly, the intricate details of the transfigured body... How the body looks; the height, breadth of it, the antomy of it, how to put it on, and other "confidential revelations" about it.
I am so much in awe of the GOD, that protected HIS Word, and HIS children from these liars who do not have that insight, and cannot have it; for if they stole the message no man could be saved.
salvation is not a confession, it is transfiguration in life by the perfect unadulterated messages dispensed by the mouth of the Son of Man Elijah, and him alone. That by the revelations raining in the earth today, we can be saved. All those in false churches referred to in the bible as "Sodom", cannot be saved by the messages preached there. And that is what HE meant when HE said:
I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. It is amazing to me how this verse, coded as it was, was not accurately interpreted for 2 whole millenia... This verse contains in it the path to life, that the church GOD said HE would build is a church of immortals.
So the Parable is explaining to us that the person kicked out did not succeed in putting on his immortal body in life, and the kick out came before the wedding took place. To show that the person was cut off before the return of Jesus His Pre-Eminence. Thus, he was cast out into those false churches out there, and the world, where the messages from GOD are not there. This was also revealed in the Word:
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
The reason its called a wedding, is because it is the wedding of the body and the Spirit. That is why the guests must have the wedding garment... The body that is wedded to the Spirit. That wedding is the immortalisation of the physical body to become one with the Spirit that is immortal. The Spirit is the person. The body is his garment. This is what marriage was pointing to. But this marriage is the kind that you don't say "till death do you part".... Rather, you say "Till death parts us no more".
The priest is the Son of man. The king is the son of GOD, Father Adam. Jesus His Pre-Eminence is not the Son of GOD, but the GOD in HIS incarnate Manifestation who came in the shoes or similitudes of the Son of GOD to bail Mankind Adam, His Eminence out of hell. Therefore, HE is the GOD Father of Adam, the Son of GOD.
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
try placing yourself AS that fellow questioned
you were called to a feast
no time for prep
come as you are
and you would have been surprised by the question
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Yahcubs777
Active Member
Where does it say to come as you are?
Yahcubs777
Active Member
The one suprised by that question should not have gone to the wedding, invited or not. What if the question was: if you do not know the bride, or the groom then why are you here? That is the same thing as asking: Where is your wedding garment?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
try Job.....as God Himself inquires of the devil.....
WHAT?.....are YOU doing here
at least the devil had a retort
Yahcubs777
Active Member
An Allegory of the fall of Man. And its coded. The way it was written is a direct blasphemy against the GOD's Most Holy Character. GOD doesn't liason with tares. This is the story of lucifer and cohorts discussing the disovery of Eden, and planning how to take them down. The one called "god" in the first chapter, is a high ranking official in havilah heaven. Lucifer for instance was chosen by his peers to be their leader. Then there is also the people that advise lucifer. The Chaldeans is coded, its the name of one of the tribes of the cherubim and seraphim. Father Adam is the awe (ur) of the chaldeans. That is what Job is; an Allegory of the events of the fall of Man, and the exposition of the secret meetings of lucifer and cohorts. The Hedge around Adam was pointing to the fact that it is a garden! And that they couldn't find an entrance into the Garden of Eden which is the heavens world Eden, the 3rd Heaven.
Lucifer believes himself to be a god. Not that he is trying to be like the GOD. To him, the GOD of Adam does not exist. His desire to be like the most high is not that he wanted to be like the GOD of Adam, but that he wanted to be supreme ruler of all; to be the one that every living being worships; both in the earth, and in heaven. Lucifer never has believed in GOD. He has never even had a conversation with GOD and he knows its the GOD talking. Like when Jesus His Pre-Eminence was "tempted" , he told HIM that he is the owner of the earth and can give it to who he desires. Lucifer is not and has never been a believer in the GOD of creation. That is why his theory of where they came from is by evolution.
That theory of evolution came from them. It is an abomination in heaven and in the earth. Lucifer does not know GOD. He is an atheist. Rather, lucifer called himself god. Lucifer is a satanist; he has his religion which he pracitces. There are luciferians, which are followers of lucifer, and there are satanists, which are practitioners of satanism. Lucifer is a satanist and all his followers are. Ask them if they worship lucifer and they will say they don't; they worship nature. What nature? Mother nature? This is an expose of the enemy.
And fallen angels have entered into this earth claiming to be gods, doing things that only they can do because they are superior to the laws of this earth. Where they wrote: And the sons of god saw the daughters of men that they were fair, and took them to marry, it was speaking of the offspring of the fallen angels; the nephilim, taking mortal women to wife.
This is why the one called "serpent", a seraph called khalia, gained stardom in the group, because she was able to enter into that heavens world. Thus, she was called "subtle" among the beasts. The beasts of the field is speaking of tares; lucifer and cohorts. That is why there is the "mark of the beast"... That is why witches are higher in rank in the occult than a wizard. They believe the woman has more power and ability than the Man.
So that allegory, is about the Fall of Man; about how lucifer and cohorts planned amongst themselves how they can take Father Adam down after sighting him, and seing his superior nature to them, and also his planet is superior to theirs. The security of Eden is greater than any planet, terrestrial or celestial. And they couldnt enter. That is why there is a link between how GOD praised job saying he was the most righteous, and HE praising Jesus His Pre-Eminence the same way. Then what followed was three temptations - much like Job where three calamities happened to his family and house. His friends are 3 of the 4 Arch Angels that helped Father Adam and Mother Eve in the fall.
The Bible is a Spiritual book, its not supposed to be read literally. This means, that there is the Spiritual content in the Word, the hidden manna, Revelations behind what was written, the reasons why these things happened... How these events designed in GOD's Plan which is Perfect secured salvation for Mankind, and what they are teaching the people; what the people were supposed to understand, learn from those events regarding the Plan of salvation. Its not just a story book for historical context; it is living and active, spiritual and life giving.
You will see this also in the story of samson, which is a real story. That he had this strength they couldn't understand, and wanted to know the secret of it. So they commissioned Delilah to discover that secret for them. And it wasn't until Samson told her that secret, that she told the philistines,and they did what they did. And again it was three times that she tried, and on the third time was successful... where he told her that his hair must be shaven.
Samson, also played the similitude of the Son of GOD, Adam.
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Bible tells it is a parable, so it is not necessary exactly what happens. But, I have understood the meaning is, all people are invited, all can have sins forgiven. But, if person doesn’t reject sin and become righteous, the forgiveness is not useful. And I believe God knows who will be righteous and who will not be, I think the idea is to give the chance to everyone to show what they are so that they have nothing to defend themselves when they get the judgment. This means, people can’t make excuses, because their choice is clearly visible to all.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
I expect that Mother Nature is everything. Well, you and I are part of her also.
So Roman was part of Mother Nature, but Mother Nature wasn't Roman.
Yahcubs777
Active Member
It doesn't make sense. Of course it matters a parable has a message in it. The man showed up to the wedding. He didn't reject the invitation. That means he should have also been prepared to attend the wedding.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
maybe he was just hungry.....and needed a free meal
Yes, he should have, but he didn’t prepare for it. And that is the problem. And I think that problem is for many who think they are saved and can do what ever they want and no act is wrong after sins are forgiven. Forgiveness is useful, if person regrets and wants to do better next time. Then there has been change in “heart” that leads to good works and that kind of person can be called righteous. if person doesn’t regret, he continues to do wrongly and don’t care about it. And it is the same as going in rags to a wedding while everyone else are in their best.
Yahcubs777
Active Member
The issue i have with your interpretation is found in 1 Corinthians 15:50-53
The wedding garment is not an inheritance.