paradise mating: Adam and Eve candidates training

[Redneck Mystic]

Once upon a time could be how to begin writing about this topic. But the truth is, it’s happening today, sometimes. I know this, because I experienced paradise mating, directed by angels known in the Bible, with several very different women. We did not complete the course of study, which is very challenging, but we tried. Now, age 82, I’ve been given another pass at it.
Basically, paradise mating is about a man and a woman paired by angels of the Lord getting a chance to walk hand and hand into Eden before the Fall. To get there, the candidates must pass through the two cherubim and their fire swords, which God placed at the gate of Eden to protect the Tree of Life and its ways, as per Genesis. This training is part of Melchizedek training. It sometimes is called Holy Grail training.
I understand there is paradise mating for men and women traveling alone, and for non-heterosexual people. I imagine the general abc’s are the same for a paired man and woman.
I am a mystic, made so by angels known in the Bible, who, starting early 1987, turned me upside down and inside out and every which a way but loose. Their main way of changing me and how I perceived and dealt with just about everything was they stood me before endless mirrors, looking at me. They taught me to discern spirits in me, in other people, in society, including religions and politics. They taught me that there are no fig leaves in paradise, nor any secrets. They proved to me in many ways that they, Jesus, God, the Devil, demons, ETs, and other beings not recognized by science and religion, exist.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Once upon a time could be how to begin writing about this topic. But the truth is, it’s happening today, sometimes. I know this, because I experienced paradise mating, directed by angels known in the Bible, with several very different women. We did not complete the course of study, which is very challenging, but we tried. Now, age 82, I’ve been given another pass at it.
Basically, paradise mating is about a man and a woman paired by angels of the Lord getting a chance to walk hand and hand into Eden before the Fall. To get there, the candidates must pass through the two cherubim and their fire swords, which God placed at the gate of Eden to protect the Tree of Life and its ways, as per Genesis. This training is part of Melchizedek training. It sometimes is called Holy Grail training.
I understand there is paradise mating for men and women traveling alone, and for non-heterosexual people. I imagine the general abc’s are the same for a paired man and woman.
I am a mystic, made so by angels known in the Bible, who, starting early 1987, turned me upside down and inside out and every which a way but loose. Their main way of changing me and how I perceived and dealt with just about everything was they stood me before endless mirrors, looking at me. They taught me to discern spirits in me, in other people, in society, including religions and politics. They taught me that there are no fig leaves in paradise, nor any secrets. They proved to me in many ways that they, Jesus, God, the Devil, demons, ETs, and other beings not recognized by science and religion, exist.

I'm still trying to figure out what you mean by paradise mating. It seems to involve these ideas:
1. You think it is angels bringing you together with women, but they seem to be doing an awful job, since the relationships never work out.
2. You speak about walking hand in hand into Eden. This is figurative, I'm sure.
3. You also speak of Melchizedek training and Holy Grail training. You've totally lost me here.
4. You say, "they stood me before endless mirrors, looking at me." At this point, I'm now just concerned for you.

 

[dybmh]

Now, age 82, I’ve been given another pass at it.

What will you be doing differently?

 

[dybmh]

Melchizedek training and Holy Grail training

The earliest reference I can find to it is the Urantia Book.

The Urantia Book 1955 Guardian Plates 600dpi : Urantia Foundation : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

This contains photoreplicas, scanned images, of all the pages in the 1955 first printing of The Urantia Book. The material in this book was given to the human...

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[IndigoChild5559]

The earliest reference I can find to it is the Urantia Book.

The Urantia Book 1955 Guardian Plates 600dpi : Urantia Foundation : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

This contains photoreplicas, scanned images, of all the pages in the 1955 first printing of The Urantia Book. The material in this book was given to the human...

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Oh ok. Thanks. I have never read the Urantia Book.

 

[dybmh]

Oh ok. Thanks. I have never read the Urantia Book.

I've only read parts of it.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

What will you be doing differently?

Good question.
I hope I will be able to stay in my lane not step on my man part and be a horse’s *** as much this time around.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

I'm still trying to figure out what you mean by paradise mating. It seems to involve these ideas:
1. You think it is angels bringing you together with women, but they seem to be doing an awful job, since the relationships never work out.
2. You speak about walking hand in hand into Eden. This is figurative, I'm sure.
3. You also speak of Melchizedek training and Holy Grail training. You've totally lost me here.
4. You say, "they stood me before endless mirrors, looking at me." At this point, I'm now just concerned for you.

I explained it, literally, using language familiar to me. The angels are not attached to any religion or spiritual path. They give some people a chance to try it. There is no way to have much of a sense of it, unless you are in it and dealing with it.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

Oh ok. Thanks. I have never read the Urantia Book.

I read the Urantia Book in the early 1980s. There is nothing in that book that resembles what I described in my post. Melchizedek appears in Genesis, and was known to Abraham. Genesis says the Melchizedek in Genesis was an eternal being in human form. The Letter to the Hebrews in the New Testament speaks to the Melchizedek priest training, and the risk of turning away from it after it begins, and says Jesus is high priest in Melchizedek. I was dealt with directly by angels, who made it very clear that I was in that training, which is not imaginable by someone not in it. I have known a few people well, who were brought into that training. One remained a very good friend, and now this lady I am with is in it, with me. There is no safe getting out of it after it begins. Safe in the spiritual sense. It’s different when I’m a monk, than when I'm with a woman mating partner. I’ve tried this with several women. It’s steep. This woman has followed me at my blog since 2010. Her husband died in 2022, and we had a meal, then we had a meal the next year, and then we had more meals, and I was not really away it was going anywhere, but she was hoping I would, unknown to me. This and that happened, and we were moving into it. At my age, 82, that seemed kinda improbable, but it’s in play, clearly, and every day is an adventure normal people probably cannot fathom, and we are sharing some of it with people we know, and not other parts of it.

 

[dybmh]

Good question.
I hope I will be able to stay in my lane not step on my man part and be a horse’s *** as much this time around.

Sounds technical

 

[Redneck Mystic]

Sounds technical

It is what I described, day to day details vary

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I explained it, literally, using language familiar to me.

I'm not trying to be a pest. I said I had a hard time understanding what you meant, because that was in fact my experience. You are using imagery that is unusual, and I'm not sure where you are being literal and where you are being figurative.

The angels are not attached to any religion or spiritual path.

That's fine. I've known plenty of non-religious people who still believe in things like angels, demons, ghosts, etc.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I read the Urantia Book in the early 1980s.

I'm completely ignorant about all things Urantia. The only reason I even know the book is because one of my all time favorite rock stars, Kerry Livgren (Kansas), was into Urantia before he became a Lutheran.

There is nothing in that book that resembles what I described in my post.

Okay, so the other person had it wrong. That's fine.

Melchizedek appears in Genesis, and was known to Abraham. Genesis says the Melchizedek in Genesis was an eternal being in human form.

This I'm VERY familiar with.

The Letter to the Hebrews in the New Testament

This I'm somewhat familiar with. The author of Hebrews claims that Jesus is a "priest of the order of Melchizedek," drawing a parallel between Jesus not having father/mother/genealogy (HUH??? He didn't? Who was Mary then?) and Melchizedek not having father/mother/genealogy (hogwash. just because a man's parents aren't mentioned doesn't mean he didn't have parents.)

Here is the entire passage. Hebrews 7:1–10:

"For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated 'king of righteousness,' and then also king of Salem, meaning 'king of peace,' without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.

Now consider how great this man was, to whom even the patriarch Abraham gave a tenth of the spoils. And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham; but he whose genealogy is not derived from them received tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises.

Now beyond all contradiction the lesser is blessed by the better. Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives. Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak, for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him."

speaks to the Melchizedek priest training,

I you read the whole passage above, you will notice that it mentions nothing at all about any training.

I was dealt with directly by angels, who made it very clear that I was in that training, which is not imaginable by someone not in it.

I'm sure you really believe this, and it is not my objective to convince you otherwise. I'm just sharing that I don't buy it.

I'm with a woman mating partner.

Somehow, I can't imagine any woman appreciating because called a "mating partner."

It sounds like you have had many positive experiences with this. It would be interesting to learn if the women felt the same.

Maybe I'm just too much of an old fashioned Romantic, but for me, the ideal is to death do us part. On my wall, I a black and white artistic photo of a very old man, and very old woman, and as they sit at the table, their hands gently touch. You can FEEL the depth of their relationship, the years and years of time together, through thick and thin. That is a thing beautiful beyond words.

 

[GoodAttention]

Maybe I'm just too much of an old fashioned Romantic, but for me, the ideal is to death do us part. On my wall, I a black and white artistic photo of a very old man, and very old woman, and as they sit at the table, their hands gently touch. You can FEEL the depth of their relationship, the years and years of time together, through thick and thin. That is a thing beautiful beyond words.

Bubbe and Zeide?

 

[dybmh]

There is no safe getting out of it after it begins. Safe in the spiritual sense. It’s different when I’m a monk, than when I'm with a woman mating partner. I’ve tried this with several women.

What happened with the other women? How did you get out of it?

 

[Redneck Mystic]

I'm not trying to be a pest. I said I had a hard time understanding what you meant, because that was in fact my experience. You are using imagery that is unusual, and I'm not sure where you are being literal and where you are being figurative.

That's fine. I've known plenty of non-religious people who still believe in things like angels, demons, ghosts, etc.

I posted something I imagined was novel to most people. I don’t believe in what I describe about my experiences with what religions claim to know and science demands hard proof. I experienced it it very up close and personal, which moved me from believing to knowing. I stil experience it. I am still discovering, as is anyone, aware of it or not. The story of the Fall from Eden is well known. I was raised Christian. So, I use that religion’s lore sometimes. In paradise mating, that was the lore used by the angels who introduced me and a good friend of mine to paradise mating in 1998. Already, I was aware of it, from being with two very different women, one, then the other, but I did not relate to it as I explained in my post. I did not understand just how deep and searching it could go. I was not ready for the harsh reality of me not being nearly as far along as I thought I was, even though I was awash in experiences with supernatural realms, dreams, visions and revelations, and so forth. I never used psychedelics. I had not gotten down to work, yet. There were three more women after those two, who helped me grow up a bit more, so to speak. Now, at 82, I’m with another woman almost 71. Every relationship was different, the details were different, and I had not expected I would get another pass at it. Jesus and Magdalene were paradise mating partners, but good luck getting Christendom to recognize that . The saints, sages, seers in various times and traditions were in paradise traning, but they tended not to have mating partners..The Holy Grail is not a relic or sacred text, it is a state of being, the chalice and the blade in harmony, or, the yin and the yang, or the feminine and the masculine, in harmony. On this planet, most’s people’s feminine is so damaged that they are cut off from God, and the feminine must be healed to spiritually evolve.

Consider this poem that wrote itself into diary in the spring of 1994.

Earth
the sacred prism
through which souls are refracted
into their elemental parts,
purified in Holy Fire,
then sent on their way
to not even God knows where,
simply because they are all
unique emanations of God,
evolving...

There are no short cuts, magic pills. Gurus are great, to point the way, but attachment to a guru can become perilous, similar to demonic possession. Eventually, ultimately, it’s one on one with what I was raised to call God, which has more names in the Creation than there are stars in the heavens. Obi Wan Kenobi called it The Force.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I posted something I imagined was novel to most people.

That is not the term I would use.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

I'm completely ignorant about all things Urantia. The only reason I even know the book is because one of my all time favorite rock stars, Kerry Livgren (Kansas), was into Urantia before he became a Lutheran.

Okay, so the other person had it wrong. That's fine.

This I'm VERY familiar with.

This I'm somewhat familiar with. The author of Hebrews claims that Jesus is a "priest of the order of Melchizedek," drawing a parallel between Jesus not having father/mother/genealogy (HUH??? He didn't? Who was Mary then?) and Melchizedek not having father/mother/genealogy (hogwash. just because a man's parents aren't mentioned doesn't mean he didn't have parents.)

Here is the entire passage. Hebrews 7:1–10:

"For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated 'king of righteousness,' and then also king of Salem, meaning 'king of peace,' without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.

Now consider how great this man was, to whom even the patriarch Abraham gave a tenth of the spoils. And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham; but he whose genealogy is not derived from them received tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises.

Now beyond all contradiction the lesser is blessed by the better. Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives. Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak, for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him."

I you read the whole passage above, you will notice that it mentions nothing at all about any training.

I'm sure you really believe this, and it is not my objective to convince you otherwise. I'm just sharing that I don't buy it.

Somehow, I can't imagine any woman appreciating because called a "mating partner."

It sounds like you have had many positive experiences with this. It would be interesting to learn if the women felt the same.

Maybe I'm just too much of an old fashioned Romantic, but for me, the ideal is to death do us part. On my wall, I a black and white artistic photo of a very old man, and very old woman, and as they sit at the table, their hands gently touch. You can FEEL the depth of their relationship, the years and years of time together, through thick and thin. That is a thing beautiful beyond words.

The author of Hebrews is generally thought to be unknown. The audience is Jews who had accepted Christ but now were faltering, going back to thei old ways. The author tells them they should be teaching, they should be eating meat, but the are still drinking milk. The author warns them of the perils of turning away from the chastening of the Lord, and encourages them to return to the discipline. I never heard that told in a Christian church. I never heard Hebrews preached in a Christian church in that way. I spent a lot of time in Christian. churches.

Melchizedek is a type of angel. The one in Genesis manifested into human form, thus no mother or father.

In 1992, I fell into a deep trance and heard this:

Melchizedek

Melchizedek is an order of angel that comes to a planet in trouble

Melchizedek comes to prepare a planet to receive the Christ

Christ does not come to a planet without Melchizedek

Mary Magdalene was of the Order Melchizedek

Back to Earth,
Magdalene and Jesus were paradise mating partners, but good luck getting Christendom to agree

In paradise mating, the man and the woman are pushed to their limits, they are used to punch every last one of each other’s buttons, and they are asked to try to chose love over being right, and the longer they stick with it, the more they evolve together. Their lives are no longer their own, because angels are orchestrating a lot of what they deal with in human ways.

The couple are asked to engage things in their lives differently, to stick tight, to keep no secrets, to take risks, to lose relationships, or risk losing them. No stone is left unturned. The are no fig leaves in paradise, nor any secrets.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

What happened with the other women? How did you get out of it?

Good question. With the other women, it eventually played out. I can’t speak for how they felt about it There were bumps and rough patches. They had experiences they never had before, me too. I wasn’t always on top of my game, I made mistakes. But I knew I was harnessed, conscripted, there was no getting out of the training for me, whether I was with a woman or not, and it’s still that way. Each of the women were remarkable and very different. They enriched my life. With each of them, something woke up in me, which I had not known was there. I did not go looking for any of them. They just showed up. It was always like that for me with women. I don’t claim to be a prince or knight in shining armor. I have warts. We all have warts. My dreams are the main way I get steered, corrected, redirected. This new woman’s dreams are doing that with her. Clearly our dreams are being manufactured specifically for us. Someone like Carl Jung might not be able to wrap his mind around angels making dreams, instead of the unconscious.

 

[dybmh]

@Redneck Mystic ,

Have you shared your concerns with your new partner? What is she saying regarding the ordeal and the commitment to all it entails?

How would you describe a successful consummation of the training? Could it be an eternal-becoming?