Parent posts video of daughter smashing cellphone to teach her a lesson

[Twilight Hue]

I don't see it as cyclical. I think we just get to a certain age, and forget how to adapt to a changing society. We can keep up when younger and lose touch when older.

That's the true cycle.

*****ing about kids/new generation, is just the symptom of the above problem

Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man but you have to ask what's going on when kids and young adults for a greater part are far apt to be more triggered, much easier than in the past.

I feel society has lost a degree of stability at present in light of issues involving young adults.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yup. Your next statement is to tell us water is wet.



More hot air sans citations.

Boy you love running that mouth. Instead of saying what I'm promoting will raise narcissists you could have taken a moment to read that link I posted that shows healthy and positive ways to set boundaries and structure. But no, you'd rather show us you can get hot air balloons off the ground all day with your mouth and show us you aren't even trying to actively engage in discussions.

The problem is, is it even working?

You read the news and see whats going on.

My generation as a youth was far more stable and less triggered than the youth in today's age.
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I still maintain its a lack of structure, particularly when both parents have less contact and family time and guidance then it was in the past.

Having youth left to their own devices without parental oversight is just not healthy at all as I see it.





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[We Never Know]

Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man but you have to ask what's going on when kids and young adults for a greater part are far apt to be more triggered, much easier than in the past.

I feel society has lost a degree of stability at present in light of issues involving young adults.

My generation didn't eat tide pods, do the teacher slap challenge(twitter), etc.
But those things weren't around.

I don't believe it would have happened even if they were around.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Maybe I'm just a grumpy old man but you have to ask what's going on when kids and young adults for a greater part are far apt to be more triggered, much easier than in the past.

I feel society has lost a degree of stability at present in light of issues involving young adults.

Probably just a grumpy old man. Recently I was ranting in my head about how much Tik Tok my nephew watches, it being brain rot, dumb, and then had to back off when I realized I was told the same things about MTV when I was a kid.
Just spend an afternoon looking over old journals, magazine and newspapers, or even historical accounts of what people where saying and thinking back whenever. People really haven't changed much. People have always loved complained, getting emotionally worked up, and especially ranting about the youth of whenever their today was. In the 15th century Vlad Dracul III was so "triggered" by Ottoman messengers not removing their turbans in his court that he had the turbans nailed to their heads as a message to keep their practices out of his lands. How's that for overreacting?

 

[Watchmen]

Curious. No one seems interested in discussing how the child disrespected the mother.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Having youth left to their own devices without parental oversight is just not healthy at all as I see it.

Where did I ever say kids should be left to their own devices?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Curious. No one seems interested in discussing how the child disrespected the mother.

The topic is the video and the actions therein. Regardless of any disrespect, it was extreme amd uncalled for, a teacher of many bad lessons, and entirely unacceptable that it was put up for a global audience.

 

[Watchmen]

The topic is the video and the actions therein. Regardless of any disrespect, it was extreme amd uncalled for, a teacher of many bad lessons, and entirely unacceptable that it was put up for a global audience.

Do you have kids?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Do you have kids?

No, but I've raised them anyways. And do refrain from the "it's different thing." I don't have kids, I've raised them still (part of the reason I never wanted my own because I needed a break from kids). The good and the bad, the pretty and the ugly, trial and error, even things most parents never do (like sex talks).

 

[Stevicus]

Curious. No one seems interested in discussing how the child disrespected the mother.

It wasn't specified in the article or video, and the original video was deleted. It might be helpful to know what she did which was considered disrespectful to her mother, but I wouldn't just take the parents' word for it. In my experience, there are some people who use exceptionally questionable and narcissistic judgment when claiming that someone "disrespected" them.

My opinion is that the bruised ego of a thin-skinned, emotionally unstable parent is not a justification for abuse.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Where did I ever say kids should be left to their own devices?

Because that's what happens with absentee parents.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Because that's what happens with absentee parents.

No, not in all cases.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Because that's what happens with absentee parents.

And I never said parents should be absent.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And I never said parents should be absent.

No you didn't.

It's just in this day and age, just to make a living trying to scrape by, both parents need to work to pay the bills leaving many children isolated and to their own devices. Hence the term latchkey children.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No you didn't.

It's just in this day and age, just to make a living trying to scrape by, both parents need to work to pay the bills leaving many children isolated and to their own devices. Hence the term latchkey children.

Traditionally it wasn't just the parents who partook in child rearing. As they say, it takes a village to raise a child.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Traditionally it wasn't just the parents who partook in child rearing. As they say, it takes a village to raise a child.

I never liked that phrase from Hillary.

I like to think it takes parents to raise a child.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I never liked that phrase from Hillary.

From Hillary? I've heard it my entire life from many sources.

I like to think it takes parents to raise a child.

And yet it's just too much for two people.
Our ancestors would roll their eyes at the concept of a "baby sitter" and probably wonder, and intensely so, why we just don't have family already helping out. That's been the norm up until the Nuclear Family became common.

 

[Twilight Hue]

From Hillary? I've heard it my entire life from many sources.

And yet it's just too much for two people.
Our ancestors would roll their eyes at the concept of a "baby sitter" and probably wonder, and intensely so, why we just don't have family already helping out. That's been the norm up until the Nuclear Family became common.

Well, Hillary was the most recent one making that quote from my experience.

I think village meant extended family in context of tribes and the like. The 'village' that I live in? I don't regard a bunch of strangers as family in the least, which is why I don't care much for that quote.

Maybe it's better to say it takes a family to raise a child rather than a bunch of strangers.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well, Hillary was the most recent one making that quote from my experience.

I think village meant extended family in context of tribes and the like. The 'village' that I live in? I don't regard a bunch of strangers as family in the least, which is why I don't care much for that quote.

Maybe it's better to say it takes a family to raise a child rather than a bunch of strangers.

Before we got all hyper obsessed about me and my own we used to typically know our neighbors and our fellow villagers.
It's not just technology that has isolated us from one another. We've been doing it for awhile now.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In regards to family I think we do need to go backwards and keep more in touch with more family. And certainly doing away with allowing someone else deciding who family is to us in regards to things like emergencies and work leave (such as, it is insulting, demeaning, and dehumanizing that our aunts, uncles and cousins are not "close enough" for family medical or funeral leave).
The Nuclear Family I believe is responsible for many societal woes because its the most narrowly defined family we've had and it cuts us off from traditional lines of support that we've otherwise always had.