McBell
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I am not talking about "muzzling any venues because views are unpopular or hated".
Not even close.
I am talking about his blatant violations of the TOS from get go and not even getting a slap on the wrist.
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Parler is shut down completely
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Not even close.
I am talking about his blatant violations of the TOS from get go and not even getting a slap on the wrist.
Subduction Zone
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That is one example. I am sure that there are others. The posts of this man cost him his job:
Arkansas Police Chief Forced To Resign After Threatening Violence Against BLM And Antifa On Social Media | The Crusader Newspaper Group
What is worrying is that he was an Arkansas chief of police.
Haaaa, so Parler being an incredibly badly designed website is another layer on this **** cake. There was a data dump of personal information and posts, even deleted posts, which now the FBI have access to. Which means the people who made seditious comments and then deleted them can still be held liable for them.
Good for the FBI. More bad news for Parler.
Every Deleted Parler Post, Many With Users' Location Data, Has Been Archived
How 80TB of Parler Posts, Videos, and Other Data Was Leaked
Good for the FBI. More bad news for Parler.
Every Deleted Parler Post, Many With Users' Location Data, Has Been Archived
How 80TB of Parler Posts, Videos, and Other Data Was Leaked
1. It is not censorship. The government is not shutting down free speech.
2. Calls to violence, are not covered under the 1st Amendment, even if they government was calling the shots.
Non-governmental business are free to boot customers for violation of their terms of service. It's not a right for anyone in America to do things that violate private sector rules. You are not entitled to use the RF site you are on, for example, to call people to arms against the U.S. Government. You will be banned. Nothing to do with free speech here. This is a private site.
End of argument.
Uhh Parler is known as a Neo Nazi website. I’m not saying every single user on there is literally a Nazi. I don’t go on there, so I don’t know.
But that’s just it’s wider reputation online.
McBell
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Now they REALLY need to change the name to "Evidence" or perhaps "Exhibit A"
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Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That happens everywhere. Look at all those Twitch thots that violate TOS every day.
Bottom line is social media platforms has its own priority on whom they want and don't want for various reasons that they will never disclose to anyone outside their own sphere of influence.
Cooky
Veteran Member
Neo Nazi's... They probably ragged on the Communists a lot I bet.
Subduction Zone
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I am amazed when people that supposedly advocate for the free market get angry when businesses tell people and organizations that they cannot use their sites to advocate violent revolution.
If one wants free speech in a capitalist democracy they have several options. Go to a public square anywhere and state your beliefs loudly. As long as you are not trying to disturb others this will be allowed. Go up to people and shout in their face and even this activity will be curtailed. Find a business that is willing to help spread your message. Don't worry, there are plenty out there for any message. But if a business looks at people and say "These people are past being Fruit Loops, they can't post here any longer" as a supporter of capitalism one really has not valid complaint when that happens.
Twitter sees people lying as harmful to America.? They can shut down those people and remove their posts. Those posts are a long term threat to their business model. As a capitalist that should be supported. Business that Parler uses to get their messages of violence and revolution out and want no part of it. That too is their right and a capitalist should support it.
If your views are so loony as to be only supported by sites that almost no one visits then it might be time to look at one's beliefs again.
Well Nazis aren’t exactly known to be chummy with communists. At least not to my knowledge
Cooky
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Well Nazis aren’t exactly known to be chummy with communists. At least not to my knowledge
...Bunch of goofballs.
Whilst I generally agree. Nazis have my disdain just out of sheer principle alone...Bunch of goofballs.
A good point. I value free speech too, but I don't expect somebody else to air my free speech for me, if they deem it inappropriate. Unless, of course, it is a 100% public space, not paid for by private enterprise.
Because you say so? Parler has every right to exist... there is no substantiated reason to stop them from having a voice.
Does someone have a right to come inside your church and start preaching to your flock to hate God? Would you insist they leave if they did? How about if they were trying to get everyone all worked up to go and commit a crime? Do they have a right in your church do to that?
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Subduction Zone
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Yes, they have a right to exist. They do not have the right to demand the use of others servers. They relied on Amazon as a platform. That is not guaranteed.
This is what Parler did?
This is what Amazon did, throwing them out. Just as you would to someone who took advantage of your services as a church to use it to spread violence and hatred.
It is not a right for Parler to host a site that allows threats of violence, planning for the overthrow of a government, on their property. Amazon's services is not their right, anymore than some anti-God activist has a right to use your church for their recruitment of followers of the church of antichrist.
Free speech is not a right anywhere, anytime, and anyhow you want. You can't barge onto others land and set up anti-government rallies.
McBell
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I am merely point out the fact.
If you wish to argue the fact, you should argue with the ones who interpreted the law in said manner.
You know, the United States Supreme Court.
Good luck with that.
Supreme Court hasn't ruled on Parler. They just filed a law suit.
freedom of speech is at risk here.