Pascal's Wager. Dawkins with God.

[questfortruth]

Ok, so no. That’s what I thought.

Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. Isaiah 53.

 

[Frank Buffalo]

To cite my post, "The probability that a believer will go to oblivion is: К %."
Atheists wrongly assume that K is 100 %. In such case Atheism is looking better than Theism, because Theism is life of efforts.

It's not just that I dislike the notion of mathematical equations proving much of anything that is real; it's that the presumptions behind the letters you propose are undefined, and therefore empty. Sorry.

 

[questfortruth]

undefined, and therefore empty. Sorry.

So, my logic is unreachable for your mind. Yes, I am super genius, who has proven the Riemann Hypothesis at least in two ways:
Elementary Proofs of the Riemann Hypothesis
But I can show you possibilities of faith:

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I have seen an UAP in couple meters from me. It took form of an angel.

Is this the only encounter you've had?

 

[questfortruth]

Is this the only encounter you've had?

I have seen loving light as well.

 

[Trysdar]

We can shorten the argument into: the more wonderful the promise, the more justified it is to bet on it.
If it were medecine, this would sound not so different than quackery.

 

[questfortruth]

the more wonderful the promise

Notably, in my calculations the chance for believer go to hell is non-zero. And the chance K for believer go to Eternal Death is not zero.

 

[LuisDantas]

Pascal's Wager is a very bad joke with no argumentative value whatsoever.

It is offensive to both common sense, ethical honesty and religious sincerity.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I have seen loving light as well.

So you've had an NDE?

 

[questfortruth]

So you've had an NDE?

I have seen following light: "There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light." Matthew 17:2.

 

[questfortruth]

NDE

No, just ordinary life events. For example, I came to a flower store. The flowers were so loving, full of light. The light is everywhere: "And God said, “Let there be light,” Genesis 1.

 

[questfortruth]

common sense

I have reconcile Pascal Wager with probability theory, give me a credit here, human.

 

[questfortruth]

So you've had an NDE?

Many times it happened that I felt what other person is thinking. For example, there was a date with a woman. And I felt that I am not enough exciting man for her. So, I told her that Physicists like me are making jokes and funny, and that I need more time. She got very surprised that I matched her thoughts.

 

[Watchmen]

Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. Isaiah 53.

No math. And quoting scripture is evidence of nothing.

 

[questfortruth]

No math.

There are many mathematical papers about God in arXiv.org. For example,
[2404.00919] Nishimori's self-tuning as evidence for the existence of God

[0706.2488] Should physicists begin experimental study of the God's physical nature?

 

[questfortruth]

quoting scripture is evidence of nothing.

 

[John53]

Pascal's wager is simplistic & stupid.
It's only use is to spark unproductive arguments.

It also requires a God that is dumb enough not to work out that you're believing just in case he/she/it is real.

 

[questfortruth]

dumb enough

God is not stupid, He has sense of humor. Like Bart:

 

[John53]

God is not stupid, He has sense of humor. Like Bart:

Which God?

 

[questfortruth]

Which God?