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Pascal's Wager?

Faybull

Well-Known Member
So you are suggesting that this is renaissaince sarcasm?


*Edit , minus the "i" at the second to the last word.?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
So you are suggesting that this is renaissance sarcasm?

Or just a straight joke without any room for sarcasm. It is certainly the logical assumption to make IMO.

It is not like the Wager could ever be made to work, and it stretches imagination to attempt to see Pascal as unable to realize that.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I can't make the wager anyway. I don't believe in any gods, & would have to pretend to believe. An all powerful supreme being type would see thru my ruse.
Act as if you have faith and faith you shall have.
old scripture quote
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
hahaha I was wondering if you'd chime in. :)
No, that's ok...only because now, I actually think I understand Pascal. :eek: Even though his wager isn't practical.

Wager is an act that should include some consider to the odds.
It's not just you and God.

There are 7+billion copies of a learning device doing just that....learning.

With each breath you become more than you were a moment ago.....and to what end?
No one survives the last breath?
Billions of possible spirit.....and all fail to dust?

I think the odds are GREAT, that a few of us go on.
 

Faybull

Well-Known Member
Wager is an act that should include some consider to the odds.
It's not just you and God.

There are 7+billion copies of a learning device doing just that....learning.

With each breath you become more than you were a moment ago.....and to what end?
No one survives the last breath?
Billions of possible spirit.....and all fail to dust?

I think the odds are GREAT, that a few of us go on.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Act as if you have faith and faith you shall have.
old scripture quote
A supreme being would be fooled by my amateur acting? I don't think so.

Besides, it's possible that a god who makes it's presence undetectable would be offended by humans who made the mistake of having faith in the unknowable. So there are more options to wager upon than Pascal proffered, leaving no safe refuge. So where does that leave us? Go where your mind leads you, & worry not.
 

Faybull

Well-Known Member
A supreme being would be fooled by my amateur acting? I don't think so.

Besides, it's possible that a god who makes it's presence undetectable would be offended by humans who made the mistake of having faith in the unknowable.
especially if everything is already "known"....oh, the irony!
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
hmmm...really? you think so? I've never thought of that.

do you mean objective truth? do you believe that he thought God was an absolute truth?
He started his wager with "God either is, or is not - reason cannot decide between the two alternatives." This doesn't sound to me like the words of someone who considered God's existence an absolute truth.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
A supreme being would be fooled by my amateur acting? I don't think so.

Besides, it's possible that a god who makes it's presence undetectable would be offended by humans who made the mistake of having faith in the unknowable.

Take a look around you.
No evidence of a Greater life?
and you wager that all having lived here....cannot live on?
No life after death?
Not a chance?
Not one in billions?

I wager.....some will continue.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
especially if everything is already "known"....oh, the irony!
If everything's already known, that would eliminate free will. Having no choice in our choices, we shouldn't worry.....except for those who are predestined to worry.
 

Faybull

Well-Known Member
He started his wager with "God either is, or is not - reason cannot decide between the two alternatives." This doesn't sound to me like the words of someone who considered God's existence an absolute truth.
But there "isn't" an " isn't": isn't is nothing, and there is no "no thing".
 
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