Pattern of Golden Rule

[Namaste]

From http://peaceseeds.elysiumgates.com/:

"He should not wish for others that which he doth not wish for himself, nor promise that which he doth not fulfill."
Baha'i Faith
Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 266

Hurt not others in ways you find hurtful.
Buddhism
Tripitaka, Udnana-varga 5.18

Therefore all things whatsoever you desire that men should do to you, do you evenso unto them; for this is the Law and the Prophets.
Christianity
Matt. 7:12

Tzu-Kung asked: "Is there one principle upon which one's whole life may proceed?" The Master replied, "Is not Reciprocity such a principle? ...what you do not yourself desire, do not put before others."
Confucianism
Analects of Confucius
Book XV, Chapter XXIIl (Legge Translation 1861)

Try your best to treat others as you would wish to be treated yourself, and you will find that this is the shortest way to benevolence.
Confucianism
Mencius VII.A.4

This is the sum of the Dharma: do not unto others that which would cause pain if done to you.
Hinduism
Mahabharata 5:1517

Not one of you is a believer unless he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.
Islam
Forty Hadith of an-Nawawi 13

What is hurtful to yourself do not to your fellow man. That is the whole of the Torah and the remainder is but commentary.
Judaism
Talmud, Shabbat 31a

A man should wander about treating all creatures as he himself would be treated.
Jainism
Sutrakritanga 1.11.33

All things are our relatives; what we do to everything, we do to ourselves. All is really One.
Native American
Black Elk

That nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good for itself.
Zorastrian
Zend Avesta, Dadistan-i-dinik 94:5

An it harms none, do as 'ye will.
Wiccan

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Isn't it interesting that one of the most logical rules in human relations can be found in nearly all the world's religious scriptures? I am very interested in what you all glean from this being that many of you have probably seen the many versions of this fundamental "golden rule."

 

[wizanda]

The Golden rule is also to be innocent like a child in all, and then there are no sharp edges after to hurt peoples to begin with.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Isn't it interesting that one of the most logical rules in human relations can be found in nearly all the world's religious scriptures? I am very interested in what you all glean from this ...

Religious scriptures are human endeavors and humanity transcends culture.

 

[McBell]

I prefer "treat others as they want to be treated."

It can be implied, if not out right said, that the golden rule is the cause of problems.
An example: those who believe that everyone should live, regardless of their situation.

 

[Papersock]

Due to our social instincts, most people are capable of some kind of empathy. It's not too surprising that some would appeal to empathy when creating a moral code of behavior that would benefit everyone.

 

[autonomous1one1]

Isn't it interesting that one of the most logical rules in human relations can be found in nearly all the world's religious scriptures? I am very interested in what you all glean from this being that many of you have probably seen the many versions of this fundamental "golden rule."

Greetings.
Well, in my opinion we can 'glean' with certainty that the rule is important to all humans since it is put forward in some form by every major religion. If one believes that every major religion has the same key goal - union with God - as I do, then the rule might be considered key to attaining that goal. Thus, it can be 'gleaned' also that the rule is critically important to the follower, in addition to being an ethical principle of benefit to the 'others.' Some of us are continually awakening to the fact that our actions (positive and negative) to others have consequential reactions within ourselves.
My form of the rule is to 'act in oneness with all.'

 

[BruceDLimber]

Personally, Namaste, I prefer these Baha'i expressions of the Golden Rule:

"And if thine eyes be turned towards justice, choose thou for
thy neighbor that which thou choosest for thyself."
Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 30

"Blessed is he who preferreth his brother before himself."
Tablets of Baha'u'llah, p. 71

These have the advantage of refuting the claim made by some Christians that only the Christian Golden Rule is positive in tone, whereas all the others are (supposedly) negative, "thou shalt not" expressions.

Another bit of hubris bites the dust!

Cheers!

Bruce

 

[JayHawes]

Most mankind and religious founders had some understanding of God, and a sense of morals. I wouldn't doubt that we had anything in common.

 

[giant space amoeba]

From http://peaceseeds.elysiumgates.com/:

"He should not wish for others that which he doth not wish for himself, nor promise that which he doth not fulfill."
Baha'i Faith
Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 266

Hurt not others in ways you find hurtful.
Buddhism
Tripitaka, Udnana-varga 5.18

Therefore all things whatsoever you desire that men should do to you, do you evenso unto them; for this is the Law and the Prophets.
Christianity
Matt. 7:12

Tzu-Kung asked: "Is there one principle upon which one's whole life may proceed?" The Master replied, "Is not Reciprocity such a principle? ...what you do not yourself desire, do not put before others."
Confucianism
Analects of Confucius
Book XV, Chapter XXIIl (Legge Translation 1861)

Try your best to treat others as you would wish to be treated yourself, and you will find that this is the shortest way to benevolence.
Confucianism
Mencius VII.A.4

This is the sum of the Dharma: do not unto others that which would cause pain if done to you.
Hinduism
Mahabharata 5:1517

Not one of you is a believer unless he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself.
Islam
Forty Hadith of an-Nawawi 13

What is hurtful to yourself do not to your fellow man. That is the whole of the Torah and the remainder is but commentary.
Judaism
Talmud, Shabbat 31a

A man should wander about treating all creatures as he himself would be treated.
Jainism
Sutrakritanga 1.11.33

All things are our relatives; what we do to everything, we do to ourselves. All is really One.
Native American
Black Elk

That nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good for itself.
Zorastrian
Zend Avesta, Dadistan-i-dinik 94:5

An it harms none, do as 'ye will.
Wiccan

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This post is awesome!

I wanted to do such a thing myself but ya beat me too it I can't seem to rep you though.

Isn't it interesting that one of the most logical rules in human relations can be found in nearly all the world's religious scriptures? I am very interested in what you all glean from this being that many of you have probably seen the many versions of this fundamental "golden rule."

I think this is because this "golden rule" is a fundemental law in human nature about the treatment of others. This could have been in a very basic sense a long time ago the treatment of others in a tribe (or even a pack if you go futher back). I also think it's the recognition that fundamentally we are similar. That we have similar emotions and though processes to one degree or another and that we are human. I think that idea, whether we manifest it in some way or not, is ingrained in us deep down in our minds. This might be an ideal that helps our evolutionary progress. I dont attribute this to the supernatural or deities though. Just something natural.

I wont question it though as it is a good rule.

 

[Aqualung]

Isn't it interesting that one of the most logical rules in human relations can be found in nearly all the world's religious scriptures? I am very interested in what you all glean from this being that many of you have probably seen the many versions of this fundamental "golden rule."

I find the golden rule highly selfish. I generally appreciate sarcastic, caustic humour, yet if I called everybody who did something stupid a retard they probably wouldn't laugh. Second, I enjoy a good fisticuffs fight, but if I started punching those with whom I came into contact I probably wouldn't have any friends. Treating others how I PERSONALLY want to be treated is just selfish and thoughtless. It's better to find out how other people want to be treated and treat them that way, rather than just treating everybody in the same manner (ie, the manner in which you want to be treated).

 

[McBell]

I find the golden rule highly selfish.
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Treating others how I PERSONALLY want to be treated is just selfish and thoughtless. It's better to find out how other people want to be treated and treat them that way, rather than just treating everybody in the same manner (ie, the manner in which you want to be treated).

This is what I was saying. (post #4)
Only, you said it better.

 

[McBell]

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Second, I enjoy a good fisticuffs fight, but if I started punching those with whom I came into contact I probably wouldn't have any friends.
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I miss the days when you could get into a fist fight with someone and after it was over, win or lose, that was the end of it.

Now a days though, that fist fight is merely the beginning. after the fight one or both parties feel they have to go get a bunch of friends and come hunting you down.
What is especially sad is when it is the winner of the fist fight who feels they need go get their friends.

But this is likely better served in it's own thread...

 

[Aqualung]

This is what I was saying. (post #4)
Only, you said it better.

Yeah, I read yours after I posted mine (I usually post before reading anything so my mind isn't "contaminated" with others' opinions) and then just couldn't be arsed to edit into my comment that it was exactly what you were saying. :sorry1: But, yeah, I agreed with you.

I miss the days when you could get into a fist fight with someone and after it was over, win or lose, that was the end of it.

I'm not nostalgic or anything, just a masochist. I'm thinking more along the lines of Fight Club type fighting, where a bunch of like minded people get together just to beat each other into a bloody pulp. That sounds like my idea of fun.

 

[giant space amoeba]

I'm thinking more along the lines of Fight Club type fighting, where a bunch of like minded people get together just to beat each other into a bloody pulp. That sounds like my idea of fun.

I'd enjoy that but they'd never allow lasses.

 

[Aqualung]

I'd enjoy that but they'd never allow lasses.

I'm sure that there are enough lasses who feel like we do to start our own.

 

[McBell]

I'd enjoy that but they'd never allow lasses.

Why not?
I know a few lasses that can open a can of whoop arse and hold their own against two or three fellows at once.

And the next day win the Miss USA contest.

 

[giant space amoeba]

Why not?
I know a few lasses that can open a can of whoop arse and hold their own against two or three fellows at once.

And the next day win the Miss USA contest.

Of course i beleive we can kick butt..

but the point is in general women are felt to be different, weaker and the need to be protected. See a woman carry something heavy society teaches the man to help her (even though she may be fine and happy to do it) see a woman in a fight and the man is taught to help and protect her (even though she may hold her own) in general i mean.

While this is all nice idea and i know there are some men who realise that sometimes we girls want to play fight as much as the boys, we have to fight for the right to fight!

Yeah i'd be happy to fight. In some cases i have fought in free sparring in MA class which is always fun but even in MA at the moment women are held back (though this is from fear that women may report sexual abuse when such a case hasnt occured).

Yeah i guess ive always been of the kind of girl who likes to fight.

 

[giant space amoeba]

I'm sure that there are enough lasses who feel like we do to start our own.

Would be fun

I'd like to fight guys too though (nothing to do with feminism lads! - in my case )

 

[Prometheus]

Some of these are not the golden rule, but the silver rule.

 

[mr.guy]

It can be implied, if not out right said, that the golden rule is the cause of problems.

I think it can also be implied that it's function may be greater as an impetus for reflection, rather than action.

To determine "what others may like" here requires one to know "what I would like".

Yet, if i'm at least dimly aware that others have different tastes than I then the propulsion to finding larger commonality of human desire and need originates here.