"PayPal tells users it will fine them $2,500 for misinformation,. . .

[Twilight Hue]

. . . then backtracks immediately"

PayPal tells users it will fine them $2,500 for misinformation, then backtracks immediately – Fortune

PayPal is claiming the memo was sent by mistake. But a lot of prominent voices aren't buying their explanation.

Wow. A Company is in the law enforcement business now?

I don't even think they can do that legally.

You cant just arbitrarily steal someones money like that just because a person said words some stuffy opportunistic executives find unpalatable.

Seems they discovered a good plan to rob people and extort their money.

 

[Twilight Hue]

*fines @The Hammer $2500 for not getting it*

Don't forget.. per violation. Sky's the limit!

 

[Revoltingest]

What's the problem?

Illegality.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Illegality.

I would consider it a horrible idea regardless of legality or lack thereof.

 

[Heyo]

Illegality.

Capitalism.

 

[Revoltingest]

Capitalism.

To enforce a fee (not legally a “fine”) in court, they would find that such an onerous penalty is counter to public policy. Spending time in court illuminated this. Not every transaction in capitalism is legal.

 

[Heyo]

I haven't been able to find an actual copy of the message PayPal is supposed to have sent to its users, in spite if the fact that every news source on the planet is talking about it today

Just get a copy of the current EULA/TOS, it's bad enough. If you are buying or trying to buy some stuff trough them they find icky (e.g. sex toys) they can refuse the transfer and cancel your account. It's somewhere on page 3 iirc. I didn't read any further.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

One would hope that they're not putting in some bizarre clause in these things.

You don't own things you buy but are merely paying for the privilege of usage.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Wow. A Company is in the law enforcement business now?

That is in no way comparae to law enforcement.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Illegality.

What of it is illegal? What laws prevent it?

 

[Revoltingest]

What of it is illegal? What laws prevent it?

There might be specific legislation, but I refer to rulings against fees that against public policy because of the magnitude. Spend time in civil court to see this.

 

[exchemist]

It's a business. They have a right to regulate how they want, especially in regards to info and safety.

They don't have a right to take your money, though. That would be theft.

I'm not sure I believe this story. It seems preposterous and none of the media I read is carrying it.

 

[exchemist]

What of it is illegal? What laws prevent it?

The laws against theft.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yikes, time to cancel my account. Younger people aren't using PayPal, anyway. They're using Cash App. PayPal is a dinosaur and Gen Z views it with as much disdain as they do Facebook (they're on Snapchat and TikTok).

I never used PayPal and never will. I always thought these type of services were a shady racket and now people know why.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That is in no way comparae to law enforcement.

They called it a fine and not a fee.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

They called it a fine and not a fee.

If I don't get these DVDs back to the library today I'll be fined for it. But that's not law enforcement, that failure to comply with rules of returning things by the due date.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There might be specific legislation, but I refer to rulings against fees that against public policy because of the magnitude. Spend time in civil court to see this.

I can see maybe some objections over the amount, but it doesn't fall under Constitutional protections that prohibit cruel and unusual punishments. Amd the way we see the prices of some medications getting jacked up to even higher and more obscene rates without legal penalty I'm not sure if this would legit be illegal or very dependent upon the judge who hears the case.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I never used PayPal and never will. I always thought these type of services were a shady racket and now people know why.

I've not understood the point of it (I thought it was just for ebay). Seems a peculiar and gnarly way to make money just by existing and creating some wacky weird payment thingy that's totally unnecessary.
But I'd also prefer using cash and don't like using credit cards

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The laws against theft.

What law makes it theft instead of business?

 

[Twilight Hue]

If I don't get these DVDs back to the library today I'll be fined for it. But that's not law enforcement, that failure to comply with rules of returning things by the due date.

They called it a late fee in my neck of the woods.

God I miss my old library. (No longer there)