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Peace Doesn't Sell

jackvincent

Member
If humans are made in God's image, a reflection if you will, God is an evil little rascal. God has a bit of "irreducible rascality" according to Alan Watts.

Humans crave violence, disaster and war through the media or direct interaction due to our primal nature. Who plays a video game where you shoot someone with love, or watch a movie where the good guy hugs the villain to life?

We crave violence, and so does God in our plane, even if God exists on a plane of pure love. We exist on the plane of suffering.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Humans crave violence, disaster and war through the media or direct interaction due to our primal nature. Who plays a video game where you shoot someone with love, or watch a movie where the good guy hugs the villain to life?

Ah but that is the difference. We do these things to ourselves, even though we have been instructed not to. We are also capable of helping people. Treating each orher with love and respect.

Its like we chose to be able to know good and evil. So we free will to be capable of both. Genesis is feeling extemely relevant here. :D
 

jackvincent

Member
Ah but that is the difference. We do these things to ourselves, even though we have been instructed not to. We are also capable of helping people. Treating each orher with love and respect.

Its like we chose to be able to know good and evil. So we free will to be capable of both. Genesis is feeling extemely relevant here. :D

God is a God of love, not a God of judgement. We haven't any permanent instructions to live by, except Karmic Law, or cause and effect. Recall the thief crying out to Jesus on the Cross, with the response "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise".

Most of our analyses these days come from the privilege of feeling threatless by the Universe. Return to the roots of humanity to see God.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
If humans are made in God's image, a reflection if you will, God is an evil little rascal. God has a bit of "irreducible rascality" according to Alan Watts.

Humans crave violence, disaster and war through the media or direct interaction due to our primal nature. Who plays a video game where you shoot someone with love, or watch a movie where the good guy hugs the villain to life?

We crave violence, and so does God in our plane, even if God exists on a plane of pure love. We exist on the plane of suffering.

I always turn it back to self. Do you crave violence, murder, disaster, and war?

I don't crave it. If I did, I would want more of it. If anything, I crave the opposite. I used to have a friend who didn't know nor want to know "the reality" of life, if you like. She has been Roman Catholic all her life and when I tried to tell her the different history of the Church both beneficial and consequential to humans, she didn't want to hear the other side. She was raised to believe in the good nature of people and if she wasn't brought up in an environment that others believe crave evil, she'd probably not know what violence really means.

So, she doesn't crave it. I don't. My other friend doesn't. So, I wouldn't expect that we are the only ones who don't; so, that would be a huge generalization.

If anything, we don't crave violence until we are taught and/or around those who raised us who brought bad vs. good morality as a conduit to our thinking. If we didn't have that, but a teaching view, we would probably have more productive ways of solving problems. However, the survival of the fittest is misinterpreted as bad actions we choose to make.

We-meaning you and I and everyone on this RF and outward.

Who is an exclusion and why would we crave violence and war as individuals?

That, and why is violence and war seen as bad if playing devil's advocate to morality. Nature has no morals. So....
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
God is a God of love, not a God of judgement. We haven't any permanent instructions to live by, except Karmic Law, or cause and effect. Recall the thief crying out to Jesus on the Cross, with the response "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise".

Most of our analyses these days come from the privilege of feeling threatless by the Universe. Return to the roots of humanity to see God.

Your wrong there God is Judgement. Judge, jury, and executioner. The 10 commandments are the law which we have been instructed to follow. We have free will to choose to do any or all of them, but have been asked to not break them, or at least as few as possible.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
God is a God of love, not a God of judgement. We haven't any permanent instructions to live by, except Karmic Law, or cause and effect. Recall the thief crying out to Jesus on the Cross, with the response "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise".

Most of our analyses these days come from the privilege of feeling threatless by the Universe. Return to the roots of humanity to see God.

Back when I used to formally meditate, I wanted knowledge of the truth of things. Occasionally I thought God would communicate with me. On one such occasion I felt God told me/inspired knowledged that there were no rules, it did not matter what we believed and regardless of what we did or didn't do, we would/could all return to the source from which we came when we decided to do so. Also I was "told" there was no rush. The only thing that keeps us separated from God was our own desire to remain separate.
 

jackvincent

Member
Back when I used to formally meditate, I wanted knowledge of the truth of things. Occasionally I thought God would communicate with me. On one such occasion I felt God told me/inspired knowledged that there were no rules, it did not matter what we believed and regardless of what we did or didn't do, we would/could all return to the source from which we came when we decided to do so. Also I was "told" there was no rush. The only thing that keeps us separated from God was our own desire to remain separate.

Yes, you reap what you sow. The only thing that judges are ****ty humans, not God.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Whether peace can make money is only of interest to the selfish imo. If one is compassionate they will not need to be paid to do what they can to live a peaceful life unless they are poor in which case they may need assistance to find their peace
 

jackvincent

Member
Whether peace can make money is only of interest to the selfish imo. If one is compassionate they will not need to be paid to do what they can to live a peaceful life unless they are poor in which case they may need assistance to find their peace

It's not literally about making money, its more of a social commentary as to what does and the innate reasoning behind it.
 

VioletVortex

Well-Known Member
Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?

I think that the idea of peace is very appealing to the majority of the population, but we all have contrasting ideals and thus lack the "money" necessary to "buy" peace.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
If humans are made in God's image, a reflection if you will, God is an evil little rascal. God has a bit of "irreducible rascality" according to Alan Watts.

Humans crave violence, disaster and war through the media or direct interaction due to our primal nature. Who plays a video game where you shoot someone with love, or watch a movie where the good guy hugs the villain to life?

We crave violence, and so does God in our plane, even if God exists on a plane of pure love. We exist on the plane of suffering.
Please do not confuse fantasy with reality. There are very few soldiers who craved the violence they found during war. Instead they suffer from mental and physical trauma. So do civilians caught in war zone.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Who plays a video game where you shoot someone with love, or watch a movie where the good guy hugs the villain to life?
Metal Gear Solid 4 allowed you to side with a particular faction by giving them gifts like health rations.

Basically any Sailor Moon or Care Bears plot.

Silent Hill: Revelation

Here, just read this

:)
 

Mister Silver

Faith's Nightmare
Peace certainly seems to sell enough for a contestant to win Miss America by mindlessly wishing for world peace. Look what a peaceful society did to the Eloi.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
If humans are made in God's image, a reflection if you will, God is an evil little rascal. God has a bit of "irreducible rascality" according to Alan Watts.

Humans crave violence, disaster and war through the media or direct interaction due to our primal nature. Who plays a video game where you shoot someone with love, or watch a movie where the good guy hugs the villain to life?

We crave violence, and so does God in our plane, even if God exists on a plane of pure love. We exist on the plane of suffering.
being a trickster doesn't require violence. sometimes the easiest answer isn't necessarily the best answer. eternal life is a journey. it isn't a destination.


58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
 
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