Pelosi violated the Logan Act and committed a felony

[Mathematician]

Right... how is that any different from what has been said all along? The whole point is that Pelosi and the other congresspeople were there attempting to meddle is Executive branch duties... what legislative duty would you imagine they were performing?

Senators McGovern and Sparkman did the exact same thing Pelosi is *guilty* of.

 

[nutshell]

Senators McGovern and Sparkman did the exact same thing Pelosi is *guilty* of.

That's not in dispute so what's your point?

 

[Reverend Rick]

That's not in dispute so what's your point?

Their point is they hate George W. Bush.

 

[lilithu]

lilithu, you keep looking for hypocrisy.

I'm not looking for hypocrisy. I'm pointing out the same discrepancy that several others are pointing out.

One day you will know me better and understand that I hold both sides to the same principle. Equal justice for all.

As Socrates said, know thyself.

 

[Ciscokid]

Did Pelosi disclose exactly what she spoke to Bashar about? I think the people should be able to see a transcript of this discussion.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I'm not looking for hypocrisy. I'm pointing out the same discrepancy that several others are pointing out.

What discrepancy? Right is right and wrong is wrong and party lines change nothing.

The only reason we are focusing on Pelosi is because SHE is the topic of the thread.

Your straw argument is focused on the like's of, "all the other kid's are doing it ".

 

[Feathers in Hair]

Their point is they hate George W. Bush.

Perhaps that they believe that if one person has violated the Logan act, then all who have should be held accountable? It's something that's been put forth in this thread, holding people to equal accountability.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

[/INDENT]Right... how is that any different from what has been said all along? The whole point is that Pelosi and the other congresspeople were there attempting to meddle is Executive branch duties... what legislative duty would you imagine they were performing?

Congresspeople conduct foreign affairs all the time. If this is the only gripe her critics have, then I'm confused as to what kind of legal precedent they are basing their case on.

uh. nope. Bush is the head of the executive branch, he has the authority to conduct his diplomacy anyway he wants. It is literally impossible for Bush to violate the logan act while he is president.

I think you may be a little confused...

Whoa, easy there, Comprehend. No offense, but this reads like someone who is getting a little too attached to this discussion.

Just an FYI, there *are* restrictions on what Bush can do--restrictions that he has violated repeatedly.

 

[Comprehend]

Congresspeople conduct foreign affairs all the time. If this is the only gripe her critics have, then I'm confused as to what kind of legal precedent they are basing their case on.

of course they do, when given authority to conduct such business by the executive branch. this really isn't difficult to grasp...

Whoa, easy there, Comprehend. No offense, but this reads like someone who is getting a little too attached to this discussion.

eh... nice try. you didn't actually address my post. would you like to try again?

Just an FYI, there *are* restrictions on what Bush can do--restrictions that he has violated repeatedly.

thanks.. I know... nice red herring. The post spoke to what Bush could do with regard to the Logan act. would you like to address that?

 

[lilithu]

Bush is the head of the executive branch, he has the authority to conduct his diplomacy anyway he wants. It is literally impossible for Bush to violate the logan act while he is president.

All hail King George! :bow:

 

[Mathematician]

That's not in dispute so what's your point?

That there is precedent in favor of Pelosi, not against her. She commited no felony.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

Comprehend. I'm not out to attack you, and I'm not out to attack Bush. I intend to learn about this Logan Law as you do, and to do that I have to test this case to see if it adds up as the OP claims that it does. If the defense cannot hold up--well, neither one of us can help that.

of course they do, when given authority to conduct such business by the executive branch. this really isn't difficult to grasp...

I'm confused. Where in the Logan Law does it specifically say that Bush has to sign off on every diplomatic trip that a Congressperson takes?

eh... nice try. you didn't actually address my post. would you like to try again?

thanks.. I know... nice red herring. The post spoke to what Bush could do with regard to the Logan act. would you like to address that?

 

[Comprehend]

Comprehend. I'm not out to attack you, and I'm not out to attack Bush. I intend to learn about this Logan Law as you do, and to do that I have to test this case to see if it adds up as the OP claims that it does. If the defense cannot hold up--well, neither one of us can help that.

I'm confused.

I know. I tried to suggest this a while ago.

Where in the Logan Law does it specifically say that Bush has to sign off on every diplomatic trip that a Congressperson takes?

that is in the constitution not the logan act. I provided a link to both in the OP...

 

[Comprehend]

All hail King George!

cute but every president has the same authority. It is impossible for the president to violate the logan act. sorry...

 

[Reverend Rick]

Has anyone noticed that many folks are trying to change the focus of this thread?