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Pennsylvania Democrats Counting Illegal Ballots

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Many times,



Yes, they did not vote for the bill because it was a bad bill for reasons I have already laid out.
I note that the video includes quotes that don't claim it is secure.
Nonetheless, it's stupid to claim it's secure. It wasn't under Trump.
It isn't under Biden. It won't be under Trump again.

Still, this doesn't support the about face that Republicans showed
when Trump cajoled them to kill the bill they'ed just agreed to.

Legal aside...
A landlord should never claim that a unit is "secure".
That's a warranty against anything ever being insecure,
& is fresh meat to lawyers.
 
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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
No the one who opposes border security is only the Democrats.
Is it?

Quadrupling the invasion by design and clear intent. That's a fact.
That's a fact? You're gonna need to back that up with something more than bluster.

The person who's "design and clear intent" that is most obvious here, is Trump's.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Trump opposed it because the bill is an absolute goddamn mess that has nothing at all to do with border security and everything to do with bringing in millions of foreigners and have them declared as Citizens in order to rig a voting block of people to their advantage and seizing national power using those foreigners.

Republicans kill border bill in a sign of Trump's strength and McConnell's waning influence


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/05/border-bill-trump-00139584

Donald Trump killed the bipartisan border bill to save his campaign


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...rder-bill-boast-beto-orourke-acostanr-vpx.cnn
https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...ath-wish-for-republican-party-dont-be-stupid/
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The truth is the republicans did not vote for it because it did not secure the border enough had things like money for sanctuary cities,...

That simply is not true as Trump denounced the agreement for political reasons as he wanted to run on it while blaming Biden. But if one gets their "news" from Fox, ...

BTW, roughly 40% of our crops are picked and handled by the undocumented, so if they're quickly removed, what effect do you think this will have on our economy and on inflation?

As the old saying goes, "Be careful what you wish for."
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
That is correct, I am biased aganist those that I consider harmful to the country and right now it is the Democrats who have turned their party into the party of the far left.

So, you support a twice-impeached former president who cheated on all three of his wives, bragged he could grope women, lied about him paying off a prostitute, tried to get the Georgia SoS to find 11,780 votes, on & on & on... And you say Biden and the Dems are extreme??? And how about some of his new appointments, such as with Gaetz?

As for me, I try to stay on the side of basic Judeo-Christian/humanistic morality, so that makes me a bad guy guess.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
I note that the video includes quotes that don't claim it is secure.
Nonetheless, it's stupid to claim it's secure. It wasn't under Trump.
It isn't under Biden. It won't be under Trump again.

Still, this doesn't support the about face that Republicans showed
when Trump cajoled them to kill the bill they'ed just agreed to.

Legal aside...
A landlord should never claim that a unit is "secure".
That's a warranty against anything ever being insecure,
& is fresh meat to lawyers.
So what, Many republicans did not like the bill, get over it.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
So, you support a twice-impeached former president who cheated on all three of his wives, bragged he could grope women, lied about him paying off a prostitute, tried to get the Georgia SoS to find 11,780 votes, on & on & on... And you say Biden and the Dems are extreme??? And how about some of his new appointments, such as with Gaetz?

As for me, I try to stay on the side of basic Judeo-Christian/humanistic morality, so that makes me a bad guy guess.
As long as his actions do not directly affect me I have no problem with him.
As far as his new appointments, let's see what comes down the pike if they are confirmed. As far as Gaetz, there needs to be some house cleaning in the Justice Department.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That simply is not true as Trump denounced the agreement for political reasons as he wanted to run on it while blaming Biden. But if one gets their "news" from Fox, ...

BTW, roughly 40% of our crops are picked and handled by the undocumented, so if they're quickly removed, what effect do you think this will have on our economy and on inflation?

As the old saying goes, "Be careful what you wish for."
Where did you get that 40% figure from?
 
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