People in News organizations should be prosecuted for lies

[Truthseeker]

What I am concerned about at the moment is people like Carlson and Ingraham saying things that are lies in my opinion about vaccinations that cause people not to get vaccinated, and cause more deaths. In an ideal society they would be prosecuted, in my opinion. In my opinion lies in the media should not be tolerated in any case, and the right to free speech is deficient in this regard. The right to free speech should not include speech by the media that the hosts know are lies and harm the public or anyone whether the intent can be proved they intended harm or not.

 

[Watchmen]

What I am concerned about at the moment is people like Carlson and Ingraham saying things that are lies in my opinion about vaccinations that cause people not to get vaccinated, and cause more deaths. In an ideal society they would be prosecuted, in my opinion. In my opinion lies in the media should not be tolerated in any case, and the right to free speech is deficient in this regard. The right to free speech should not include speech by the media that the hosts know are lies and harm the public or anyone whether the intent can be proved they intended harm or not.

It’s a slippery slope. What is media? There’s news and there’s editorials. Unfortunately, the editorials get the ratings.

 

[JustGeorge]

What I am concerned about at the moment is people like Carlson and Ingraham saying things that are lies in my opinion about vaccinations that cause people not to get vaccinated, and cause more deaths. In an ideal society they would be prosecuted, in my opinion. In my opinion lies in the media should not be tolerated in any case, and the right to free speech is deficient in this regard. The right to free speech should not include speech by the media that the hosts know are lies and harm the public or anyone whether the intent can be proved they intended harm or not.

I agree with you, that blatant lies should be prosecuted.

However, people who think they're telling the truth(even if its not correct) are often well meaning, even if they're causing harm. I'm not sure its a good idea to prosecute folks for being incorrect. How can one tell if the misinformation is deliberate, or simply mistaken?

 

[Truthseeker]

It’s a slippery slope. What is media? There’s news and there’s editorials. Unfortunately, the editorials get the ratings.

Editorial lies are no different. A lie is a lie.

 

[Truthseeker]

I agree with you, that blatant lies should be prosecuted.

However, people who think they're telling the truth(even if its not correct) are often well meaning, even if they're causing harm. I'm not sure its a good idea to prosecute folks for being incorrect. How can one tell if the misinformation is deliberate, or simply mistaken?

Well, you can have a fair trial about whether it's a deliberate lie or they are mistaken.

 

[JustGeorge]

Well, you can have a fair trial about whether it's a deliberate lie or they are mistaken.

I think that would be a lot of trials, a lot of time, and a lot of money.

If we had unlimited access to trials, time, and money, I'd say go for it, but I don't think this is the case.

 

[Watchmen]

Editorial lies are no different. A lie is a lie.

Editorials are opinions. But I see where the lines could be blurred. And it’s still a slippery slope.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What I am concerned about at the moment is people like Carlson and Ingraham saying things that are lies in my opinion about vaccinations that cause people not to get vaccinated, and cause more deaths. In an ideal society they would be prosecuted, in my opinion. In my opinion lies in the media should not be tolerated in any case, and the right to free speech is deficient in this regard. The right to free speech should not include speech by the media that the hosts know are lies and harm the public or anyone whether the intent can be proved they intended harm or not.

What makes it a lie?

Anyways bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Editorials are opinions. But I see where the lines could be blurred. And it’s still a slippery slope.

A simple disclaimer. One already used.


Expressed opinions may not reflect the views of the host.

 

[SomeRandom]

What I am concerned about at the moment is people like Carlson and Ingraham saying things that are lies in my opinion about vaccinations that cause people not to get vaccinated, and cause more deaths. In an ideal society they would be prosecuted, in my opinion. In my opinion lies in the media should not be tolerated in any case, and the right to free speech is deficient in this regard. The right to free speech should not include speech by the media that the hosts know are lies and harm the public or anyone whether the intent can be proved they intended harm or not.

I do agree that journalists should be held to a high standard when disseminating information. Which is why there’s a code of conduct for most countries. But American media seems to thrive on hyperbole, no offence. My country is not that different, I’m just saying. America seems to have much more lax standards. That’s just my perception though.

 

[Colt]

What I am concerned about at the moment is people like Carlson and Ingraham saying things that are lies in my opinion about vaccinations that cause people not to get vaccinated, and cause more deaths. In an ideal society they would be prosecuted, in my opinion. In my opinion lies in the media should not be tolerated in any case, and the right to free speech is deficient in this regard. The right to free speech should not include speech by the media that the hosts know are lies and harm the public or anyone whether the intent can be proved they intended harm or not.

What did Tucker lie about specifically?

The Left has always used imprisonment against its political enemies. The media in America is just an extension of the (D) party, political activist disguised as journalist. Tucker Carlson is himself a conservative activist, a counter to the Lefts agenda and far outweighed by the Leftist media establishment.

I chose to get the Maderna vaccination and wear masks ect.


FDA adds new warning on Johnson & Johnson vaccine related to rare autoimmune disorder

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/12/johnson-and-johnson-warning/

 

[Colt]

I do agree that journalists should be held to a high standard when disseminating information. Which is why there’s a code of conduct for most countries. But American media seems to thrive on hyperbole, no offence. My country is not that different, I’m just saying. America seems to have much more lax standards. That’s just my perception though.

I'm an American, my experience has been that we no longer have real journalism, we have journalistic activism and click-bait profiteering.

In America if you work in Journalism you wont go very far if you break a story that is damaging to the Lefts agenda.

 

[Heyo]

No chance of getting a political majority for that. Which politician would even think about making lying illegal?

 

[Twilight Hue]

What I am concerned about at the moment is people like Carlson and Ingraham saying things that are lies in my opinion about vaccinations that cause people not to get vaccinated, and cause more deaths. In an ideal society they would be prosecuted, in my opinion. In my opinion lies in the media should not be tolerated in any case, and the right to free speech is deficient in this regard. The right to free speech should not include speech by the media that the hosts know are lies and harm the public or anyone whether the intent can be proved they intended harm or not.

Big question. How do you know for sure its lies?

 

[Twilight Hue]

No chance of getting a political majority for that. Which politician would even think about making lying illegal?

They would be out of a job themselves. Lol.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

In an ideal society they would be prosecuted, in my opinion.

In an ideal society free speech would be defended by an intelligent and socially responsible citizenry, representing a super-majority of the population, and fully capable of quarantining nonsense.

The problem is not the liar; the problem is the credulous: gullibility kills.

 

[Wildswanderer]

What I am concerned about at the moment is people like Carlson and Ingraham saying things that are lies in my opinion about vaccinations that cause people not to get vaccinated, and cause more deaths. In an ideal society they would be prosecuted, in my opinion. In my opinion lies in the media should not be tolerated in any case, and the right to free speech is deficient in this regard. The right to free speech should not include speech by the media that the hosts know are lies and harm the public or anyone whether the intent can be proved they intended harm or not.

What lies? People are also dying from the vaccines. Others are having health problems because of them. Should this not be public knowledge?

 

[Stevicus]

What I am concerned about at the moment is people like Carlson and Ingraham saying things that are lies in my opinion about vaccinations that cause people not to get vaccinated, and cause more deaths. In an ideal society they would be prosecuted, in my opinion. In my opinion lies in the media should not be tolerated in any case, and the right to free speech is deficient in this regard. The right to free speech should not include speech by the media that the hosts know are lies and harm the public or anyone whether the intent can be proved they intended harm or not.

One thing they should do is make a clear differentiation between actual news and opinion/commentary. That's been a big problem I've noticed with the news in general.

However, I think they should also take the same approach with commercial speech. Any misleading statement, including the use of squirrely phrases and weasel words, should also be punished with imprisonment.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Any misleading statement, including the use of squirrely phrases and weasel words, should also be punished with imprisonment.

And who would you anoint to designate a phrase squirrely or a word weaselly?

 

[Twilight Hue]

What lies? People are also dying from the vaccines. Others are having health problems because of them. Should this not be public knowledge?

I agree.

I think people have a right to critical information weither it's positive or negative.

To suppress or censor information on a basis that it will "hurt the cause" should never be tolerated nor excused.