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physical appearance of jesus

satyaroop

Active Member
regarding what jesus is made to look like in artwork, in most paintings, sculptures, statues etc., do you think his appearance should be more accurately depicted according to historians and researchers?
do you believe he is accurately portrayed?

do you attach any importance to this(his physical appearance)? or it doesn't matter to you?

has jesus been hijacked by white people? and made to look like a white man...
 

Axe Elf

Prophet
What, you don't think He looked like John Legend?

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No, it's not particularly important to me. We don't have any pictures, and there's some allegorical truth to Jesus appearing to each person as being like themselves, despite His human genetics.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
regarding what jesus is made to look like in artwork, in most paintings, sculptures, statues etc., do you think his appearance should be more accurately depicted according to historians and researchers?
do you believe he is accurately portrayed?

do you attach any importance to this(his physical appearance)? or it doesn't matter to you?

has jesus been hijacked by white people? and made to look like a white man...

I think that thanks to Greek historians who were very outspoken and liked accuracy in their descriptions, we do have an idea of what the Jews of the late ancient age looked like.
We know as fact that it was difficult to distinguish a Greek person from a Phoenician / Carthaginian one, and those were Semites (Diodorus, Herodotus).
Not to mention that Greeks were obsessed with eugenics...

Since races are a product of climate, it's obvious there cannot be a relevant difference between Greeks and Jews but there was a very big difference between Greeks and Celts. Besides, in Rome there was a significant number of redheads like Sulla and Nero...

The fact that the Jews in Rome (today known as Italkim) always had a privileged juridic status basically proves that there was no racial difference between the two groups (also thinking of how incredibly racist Romans were): they were given the status of peregrini alicuius civitatis so they could use their Judaic laws and be dispensed from private Roman law.


So I do believe Jesus is accurately portrayed.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
No, Jesus isn't accurately portrayed. He wasn't some Northern European pretty boy. This is close to what he would've looked like, using forensic reconstruction:

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Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
regarding what jesus is made to look like in artwork, in most paintings, sculptures, statues etc., do you think his appearance should be more accurately depicted according to historians and researchers?
do you believe he is accurately portrayed?

do you attach any importance to this(his physical appearance)? or it doesn't matter to you?

has jesus been hijacked by white people? and made to look like a white man...

Jesus was a typical Middle Eastern Jew. His physical appearance is not mentioned in the Bible at all.

He was so like his fellow countrymen that Judas had to identify him with a kiss. That means that he was dressed like other Jews and had a similar appearance to his Jewish disciples.

I can pretty much guarantee that he didn't look like this....
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He might have looked like this
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but no one really knows.

I guess that is why he is portrayed with so many different faces.

I can't imagine that he would have been ugly though.
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Jumi

Well-Known Member
This is a common discussion here. There is a lot of variety in appearance in the Middle East and it has been like this in the time frame Jesus is supposed to have lived. Jesus might have been black or blond, no one knows and the authors at the time obviously didn't care much. In Ethiopia he is depicted as black, in Greek churches in today's Turkey he looks Greek.
 
has jesus been hijacked by white people?

No more than he has been 'hijacked' by other people...


Ethiopian Jesus

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Chinese Jesus

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and made to look like a white man...


By what metric was he not 'white'? Remember, Arabs were foreign invaders of a Mediterranean civilisation during their conquests in the 7th C.

Looking at genetic profiles of the region, he was probably as 'white' as a Southern European (as are local Jews, many Turks, Levantine 'Arabs', etc.)

Modern political boundaries that separate "white" Europe from "brown" Middle East don't match traditional population origins and ignore the fact that Mediterranean Southern Europeans are closer to Mediterranean peoples in the ME than they are to Northern Europeans. Also that Mediterranean 'Middle Easterners' are closer to Southern Europeans than they are to ethnic Arabs, even though culturally, they are seen as Arabs.

Defining populations in terms of 'whiteness' and arbitrarily defining genetically similar populations as white/non-white is akin to racist notions of racial purity.

This is not to say Jesus should be claimed as 'white', just that the classification is stupid and relates to modern sensibilities and prejudices rather than anything remotely scientific.

Copy pasted from this thread which also includes scientific info regarding genetics in the region.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Modern theories according to which the people of today Israel would be indicative to reconstruct Jesus' appearance are unreliable, because after the 8th century the ethnography of the Mediterranean area was completely upset because of the Islamic conquest. So today Mediterraneans are the result of an evident arabization.


Also I believe that Jesus could have never looked like a Maghrebine, because Carthaginians (who looked like Jews) were very racist towards all the native populations of Northern Africa including Libyans...and they forced them to be soldiers of their huge armies.
 

JoshuaTree

Flowers are red?
regarding what jesus is made to look like in artwork, in most paintings, sculptures, statues etc., do you think his appearance should be more accurately depicted according to historians and researchers?
do you believe he is accurately portrayed?

do you attach any importance to this(his physical appearance)? or it doesn't matter to you?

has jesus been hijacked by white people? and made to look like a white man...

Adam and Eve were white, right? Soooo... if God made man in His own image it stands to reason that God is white, right? Since Jesus is the son of God then Jesus must be white, right? Hmmmmm...
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
regarding what jesus is made to look like in artwork, in most paintings, sculptures, statues etc., do you think his appearance should be more accurately depicted according to historians and researchers?
do you believe he is accurately portrayed?

do you attach any importance to this(his physical appearance)? or it doesn't matter to you?

has jesus been hijacked by white people? and made to look like a white man...

I would look at it one of two ways, depending on if one believes or doesn't believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ as the Son of God.

If one believes that, then one must assume that God or the Son of God can appear in any form he wishes, regardless of whatever the local population looked like. Jesus would not be considered the biological son of Joseph, so he probably wouldn't look like Joseph.

On the other hand, if there was no Immaculate Conception and Mary was impregnated by, say, a Roman soldier, then Jesus might have had Roman features.
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
I would look at it one of two ways, depending on if one believes or doesn't believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ as the Son of God.

If one believes that, then one must assume that God or the Son of God can appear in any form he wishes, regardless of whatever the local population looked like. Jesus would not be considered the biological son of Joseph, so he probably wouldn't look like Joseph.

On the other hand, if there was no Immaculate Conception and Mary was impregnated by, say, a Roman soldier, then Jesus might have had Roman features.
Actually the term -immaculate conception- does not refer to Jesus. It refers to the belief that Mary was conceived without sin.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Actually the term -immaculate conception- does not refer to Jesus. It refers to the belief that Mary was conceived without sin.

Mary was conceived without sin?
I was not aware her mother was a virgin, too.

Ciao

- viole
 
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