Pink flamingos prove Creationism.

[leibowde84]

Because I have no prejudice against freedom. It is just an obvious and legitemate hypothesis to me. So when the evidence points to freedom, then I will look for a theory about how it is chosen. When the evidence looks like it is forced, then I will look for a theory in terms of it being forced. The evidence, what organisms look like, points to that organisms are chosen as a whole in a reasoned and informed way. If organisms looked more chaotic, then I would look for a theory about randomness and errors in copying.

They are chaotic. Well over 90% of species have gone extinct. Doesn't that point to chance and time? How is that not chaotic?

 

[Desert Snake]

If something is so obvious, then it should be easy to explain to those who disagree.
But if the explanation is not forthcoming, then perhaps the argument of obviousness fails, eh?

Not necessarily. Different formulas or numbers can be produced, I've never tried it, /for various practical reasons/, however we know from the onset that all results are high improbability. You don't seem to want to seriously consider this, however.

 

[Desert Snake]

It doesn't say creationism or evolution, it says "creation VS. Evolution".

So, what would you present as a thread, then?

 

[Paranoid Android]

Obviously pink flamingos prove creationism. The odds of something like that in a materialist zeitgeist are laughably small. Actually, the ''odds'' of plain materialism are laughably small in general. ''Oh but it could happen''. Well, purple unicorns on Mars could happen as well.

The thing that proves it is The Edicts. It tells of our blessed ancestors Adam and Eve, and Eve's rape by the accursed amoral degenerate. Through Eve's rape, the whole Squares came about. They are our cousins, but they aren't human. They are half human and throw there weight around the whole world. Hopefully, the accursed Squares won't give in to there homicidal instincts and have global nuclear war.

 

[leibowde84]

So, what would you present as a thread, then?

It would have to be confined to meaning of the terms, and the limits inherent in them. Evolution is not materialism. Intelligent design, where applying evolution, is not creationism. And, evolution does not speak to the origin of life. Creationism, thus, goes against any evidence supporting evolution.

 

[outhouse]

The thing that proves it is The Edicts. It tells of our blessed ancestors Adam and Eve, and Eve's rape by the accursed amoral degenerate. Through Eve's rape, the whole Squares came about. They are our cousins, but they aren't human. They are half human and throw there weight around the whole world. Hopefully, the accursed Squares won't give in to there homicidal instincts and have global nuclear war.

I feel sorry for you..

 

[Revoltingest]

Not necessarily. Different formulas or numbers can be produced, I've never tried it, /for various practical reasons/, however we know from the onset that all results are high improbability. You don't seem to want to seriously consider this, however. And that's not my style.

To say that formulas & numbers can be produced is a far cry from actually producing them as part of a cogent argument.
If you did, I could understand some basic stuff....I've studied probabilistic systems analysis.
I've designed & analyzed control systems for my customers.
But without even minimal support for claims of improbability, there's no meat for me to seriously address.

 

[McBell]

I feel sorry for you..

Huh?
Why?
His post makes more sense than any of the OPs in this thread.

 

[Desert Snake]

To say that formulas & numbers can be produced is a far cry from actually producing them as part of a cogent argument. If you did, I could understand some basic stuff....I've studied probabilistic systems analysis. I've designed & analyzed control systems for my customers. But without even minimal support for claims of improbability, there's no meat for me to seriously address.

The formula could be simple, or complicated. If I presented a ''simple'' formula, it's still bad odds. However, I suspect that there is some other element to this debate, that you have not intoned yet. I can't think of any reason why you would not just state why the probability doesn't look terrible.

 

[Desert Snake]

It would have to be confined to meaning of the terms, and the limits inherent in them. Evolution is not materialism. Intelligent design, where applying evolution, is not creationism. And, evolution does not speak to the origin of life. Creationism, thus, goes against any evidence supporting evolution.

And your theory is that G-d made id and left, or what? I forget what your position is specifically.

 

[Revoltingest]

The formula could be simple, or complicated. If I presented a ''simple'' formula, it's still bad odds. However, I suspect that there is some other element to this debate, that you have not intoned yet. I can't think of any reason why you would not just state why the probability doesn't look terrible.

I could say the probability for non-supernaturally affected evolution is 100% because of "complicated math".
Would you buy that argument?

 

[outhouse]

Huh?
Why?
His post makes more sense than any of the OPs in this thread.

I found them to be more creative and definitely more genuine. You know at least he is honest.

 

[McBell]

The formula could be simple, or complicated. If I presented a ''simple'' formula, it's still bad odds. However, I suspect that there is some other element to this debate, that you have not intoned yet. I can't think of any reason why you would not just state why the probability doesn't look terrible.

Because you have merely made the claim, repeatedly, that the probability is terrible without once presenting any math, even when flat out asked, to support your claim.

 

[First Baseman]

Where did I use the sentence "there is no way..." In any of my posts? I am not even dead sure that bue fairies do not exist, are you?

It is entirely possible that pink flamingos have been created. I just wonder how they can prove creationism at all. Does the creator like pink, for some reason?

Ciao

- viole

Fair enough.

 

[Milton Platt]

Obviously pink flamingos prove creationism. The odds of something like that in a materialist zeitgeist are laughably small. Actually, the ''odds'' of plain materialism are laughably small in general. ''Oh but it could happen''. Well, purple unicorns on Mars could happen as well.

Are you serious??? Why don't you do your homework before spouting off absolute gibberish?????
Flamingo feathers obtain their wonderful rosy pink color from pigments in the organisms they eat. The flamingos' feathers, legs, and face are colored by their diet, which is rich in alpha and beta carotenoid pigments.

 

[Milton Platt]

Is this a serious thread?

Still looking for serious threads here.......

 

[leibowde84]

And your theory is that G-d made id and left, or what? I forget what your position is specifically.

My position is the recognition that all verifiable evidence points to evolution being the case, but our understanding of evolution scientifically is still "evolving" (no pun intended). Evolution, imho, was set into motion by natural processes like the big bang, super novas, black holes, fusion, fission, etc. But, my belief is that, before our reality existed as the cosmos, God had some part in initializing the process. I also understand that this belief is completely unsubstantiated and could be way off course. Because my belief is based solely on my subjective opinion that it "makes sense", I would never claim it as any kind of supported claim/theory. It is based entirely on faith.

 

[Desert Snake]

Because you have merely made the claim, repeatedly, that the probability is terrible without once presenting any math, even when flat out asked, to support your claim.

You haven't presented anything.

 

[Revoltingest]

Still looking for serious threads here.......

There are some here & there.

 

[Milton Platt]

The thing that proves it is The Edicts. It tells of our blessed ancestors Adam and Eve, and Eve's rape by the accursed amoral degenerate. Through Eve's rape, the whole Squares came about. They are our cousins, but they aren't human. They are half human and throw there weight around the whole world. Hopefully, the accursed Squares won't give in to there homicidal instincts and have global nuclear war.

I've seen you posting elsewhere on the site. Get your meds adjusted.