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Pizza hut lays off all its drivers just because minimum wage was increased.

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
It's only in California, but I'm sure everybody knows Pizza Hut chains make more than enough money to accommodate all employees, including the minimum wage increase.

This is just a disgusting show of
Incredible greed and disregard for the working people that had made that made this chain successful and without them Pizza Hut would not even be around.

Great way to show thanks and appreciation from the management at Pizza hut around Christmas to their workers.


Wait a minute. I thought you conservatives considered this kind of talk to be "socialist", "marxist", "woke", etc.?
 

flowerpower

Member
Elephant in the room: Why anyone would waste their money on places like Pizza Hut or Dominos is beyond me.

I can get some other junk food places - like McDonalds and KFC - people know that the food is poisonous garbage but it's sort of like confectionary. People know it's bad for them but it kind of gives them a high to eat it once in a while - like cigarettes and other such things. Those restaurants have top of the line marketing departments too so their international success is understandable.

But bastardizing something sacred like pizza the way Pizza Hut and Dominos do is just something I can't understand. The food is garbage, overpriced, unhealthy and doesn't really have any redeeming qualities to it at all - the pizzas are **** (I know it's a subjective taste thing but I'm not so sure about that; it seems like their pizza somehow finds a way to be empirically ****) - I don't understand how their business models were able to get off the ground in the first place let alone make it so big. If you're eating some takeaway pizza, why not spend the exact same amount of money on something worthwhile?

I guess this post is just a rant but two those particular junk food restaurants really boggle the mind.
 

libre

In flight
Staff member
Premium Member
Elephant in the room: Why anyone would waste their money on places like Pizza Hut or Dominos is beyond me.

I can get some other junk food places - like McDonalds and KFC - people know that the food is poisonous garbage but it's sort of like confectionary. People know it's bad for them but it kind of gives them a high to eat it once in a while - like cigarettes and other such things. Those restaurants have top of the line marketing departments too so their international success is understandable.

But bastardizing something sacred like pizza the way Pizza Hut and Dominos do is just something I can't understand. The food is garbage, overpriced, unhealthy and doesn't really have any redeeming qualities to it at all - the pizzas are **** (I know it's a subjective taste thing but I'm not so sure about that; it seems like their pizza somehow finds a way to be empirically ****) - I don't understand how their business models were able to get off the ground in the first place let alone make it so big. If you're eating some takeaway pizza, why not spend the exact same amount of money on something worthwhile?

I guess this post is just a rant but those particular junk food restaurants really boggle the mind.
Interesting article about Dominos: How Becoming 'A Tech Company That Sells Pizza' Delivered Huge For Domino's.
It thrives because of tech.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm late to the thread and just want to say I don't buy their excuse. Lots of companies which made record profits this year still had massive layoffs because if employee number go down, end of year earnings for shareholders go up. This is practically a seasonal event with Disney, who always fires hundreds to thousands of employees around Christmas even in their highest earning years.

To say nothing of Walmart pretending it was closing stores due to theft, even though their own numbers showed that a lie, but those stores *were* ones where unionization had been discussed.

These companies will do anything to pin layoffs or closures or price gouging or removal of benefits, etc on employees or customers or both.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's only in California, but I'm sure everybody knows Pizza Hut chains make more than enough money to accommodate all employees, including the minimum wage increase.

This is just a disgusting show of
Incredible greed and disregard for the working people that had made that made this chain successful and without them Pizza Hut would not even be around.

Great way to show thanks and appreciation from the management at Pizza hut around Christmas to their workers.


Why would you expect them to keep drivers if drivers are no longer profitable? You think they owe you delivery service? No; either get it yourself or use delivery services like Door dash.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I agree to a point. This CEO job has only come into favour recently. Old time corporations often had the founder or his family as major share holder and CEO/president. They had an emotional attachment to the business and sometimes even to the workers, seeing them as extended family. The idea that a corporations first and only duty is to turn a profit and that the profit has to be min-maxed is relatively new.
What sort of time frame do you mean by relatively new?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Why would you expect them to keep drivers if drivers are no longer profitable? You think they owe you delivery service? No; either get it yourself or use delivery services like Door dash.
The problem with "use Door Dash" is, of course, the ability to actually make money doing stuff like that is very heavily restricted to living in a place big enough to stay busy doing something like that. Most drivers make very little money, especially when we add in doing things like that are also painfully dependant upong tips to actually make money and in a society that decided it's acceptable for low wages to be subsidized by tye customer a lot of people refuse to tip.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Elephant in the room: Why anyone would waste their money on places like Pizza Hut or Dominos is beyond me.

I can get some other junk food places - like McDonalds and KFC - people know that the food is poisonous garbage but it's sort of like confectionary. People know it's bad for them but it kind of gives them a high to eat it once in a while - like cigarettes and other such things. Those restaurants have top of the line marketing departments too so their international success is understandable.

But bastardizing something sacred like pizza the way Pizza Hut and Dominos do is just something I can't understand. The food is garbage, overpriced, unhealthy and doesn't really have any redeeming qualities to it at all - the pizzas are **** (I know it's a subjective taste thing but I'm not so sure about that; it seems like their pizza somehow finds a way to be empirically ****) - I don't understand how their business models were able to get off the ground in the first place let alone make it so big. If you're eating some takeaway pizza, why not spend the exact same amount of money on something worthwhile?

I guess this post is just a rant but two those particular junk food restaurants really boggle the mind.
Believe it not there was a time when Pizza Hut was actually good pizza.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The idea that a corporations first and only duty is to turn a profit and that the profit has to be min-maxed is relatively new.
Evidence for the claim?
I've some familiarity with industrial history,
& have found that profit has always been at
the forefront. Lack of focus on it, & planning
for it has relegated companies to the dustbin.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
The problem with "use Door Dash" is, of course, the ability to actually make money doing stuff like that is very heavily restricted to living in a place big enough to stay busy doing something like that. Most drivers make very little money, especially when we add in doing things like that are also painfully dependant upong tips to actually make money and in a society that decided it's acceptable for low wages to be subsidized by tye customer a lot of people refuse to tip.
I know people who work for such delivery services; they have no problem with the pay. However if the pay wasn't good enough, nobody would work there and the fat lazy slob whining and complaining because he can't have his pizza delivered to his door can get off his lazy @$$ and get it himself!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I know people who work for such delivery services; they have no problem with the pay. However if the pay wasn't good enough, nobody would work there and the fat lazy slob whining and complaining because he can't have his pizza delivered to his door can get off his lazy @$$ and get it himself!
Have you ever ordered pizza delivery?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I know people who work for such delivery services; they have no problem with the pay. However if the pay wasn't good enough, nobody would work there and the fat lazy slob whining and complaining because he can't have his pizza delivered to his door can get off his lazy @$$ and get it himself!
Then those you know are above the average income.
And how about less crappy hate on your part? "Fat lazy slob whining and complaining"? That's uncalled for.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I think it takes more study to come to the conclusion.

I found this information on an investment of about Yet with a whopping $936,000 investment cost, is this really a good business? How long would it take you to recoup your original investment? dollars. It would take about 10 years just to get a ROI - so costs have to be looked at very carefully:

How profitable is a Pizza Hut franchise?​

We estimate that the average Pizza Hut franchise makes $92,000 in profits per year. That’s a 9%

FYI: from the article you quoted:

As per our analysis, it would take you 6 years as a franchisee to recoup your original investment to open a Pizza Hut franchise. This is what we call the investment payback period.

Therefore, from a pure financial standpoint, Pizza Hut is a great investment.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
A company's business model is wrong if it can't afford to pay its workers a fair wage and make a profit.
I'd also say that the minimum wage is only just about fair, you should pay more than the minimum.
 
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