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Place of miracles in today's time.

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I don't know, but perhaps it is because God does not care who you think is in charge.
God has no need of worshippers after all.

You are being inconsistent. Next world, God cares a bit at least to restrict power, this world, he doesn't care?
 

danieldemol

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Premium Member
Trump had power in terms of nukes and weapons sure, but there is counter measures, but imagine he can teleport a whole throne in a twinkle of an eye. That's too much power to an evil person. Why would God let that happen?
So far there is not only no evidence that this has happened other than as illusion, their is contrary evidence to this, because anyone who had the power to instantaneously teleport who is benevolent should already have teleported all the tyrants out of human domain.

Just think, if a woman is getting or about to be raped, she could cry out for either herself or her rapist to be teleported somewhere.

That this does not happen suggests either that your Mahdi is impotent to teleport, or doesn't care about the oppressed and the downtrodden.

You are being inconsistent. Next world, God cares a bit at least to restrict power, this world, he doesn't care?
It is not me thats being inconsistent, it is God that is being inconsistent.

You already believe God is inconsistent because in the next world you believe God boils evil people in oil whereas in this life it doesn't happen. Thats an inconsistency.
 

Alex22

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This is exactly what I'm saying. Books claiming miracles do not prove them, the way Quran talks about miracles, is that there is always a guide who can perform them. If we turn to God, we will be shown the signs in form of miracles and he has shown them to people who are certain.

The way to know miracles are real is to see one. The Quran says go ahead ask the family of the reminder if you do not know. Miracles are one of the things we can ask them. The ask the family of reminder in Suratal Nahl has it in context of seeking clarification to Quran while in Suratal Anbiya, the ask the family of the reminder is in context of people seeking miracles. In Suratal Anbiya, it means, go ahead, ask them for miracles.

The Quran is one of those books that claim miracles though. What makes it different?
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
So you took my statement completely out of context, and responded to how I didn't mean it.
No. I quoted the statement in full.

There was no other context.
Go back and read the original post.

If you disagree, please quote your own original post in full and point out this mysterious "context" you claim that I ignored.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
To support C, I'm suggesting if we don't affirm this, then the next world to come after can be in hands of devils and evil creatures, do you believe this is possible?

Why wouldn't that be possible.

You also seem to completely ignore the very plausible and most likely option, of there being no "next world" all together.

We forever are in the hands of devils while God watches and does nothing?

Perhaps only devils exist. How could you possibly know?
More then likely though, no such things as devils OR gods exist. Or any other mythical and / or magical entities, for that matter.
 

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Discussing what God and his appointed kings should do with the power they have, is slightly off-topic but not totally. Yet I believe to keep things clean, it deserves a topic in itself. It's off-topic to miracles being a proof more then it is on topic. That's why I will make a thread about this topic.
 
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