We create and send self replicating robots to another planet, we atach a chip telling them everything about us so they can pass it down to future generations, during replicating the chip it becomes corrupted over time, some of the bots decide to ignore "Earth Story Chip" others guard it and pass it down as uncorrupt as possible,we occasionaly send an avatar to remind and rectify their programs , but some hide from the avatar or refuse to believe it...what type of discussions do the bots have to prove or disprove their creation
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Planet of the Ponderbots
- Thread starter Eddy Daze
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Angellous wuz here
Is this meant as an analogy or just a scenario for discussion? If your intent is strictly to offer a scenario to spur discussion, no issue. However, if your intent is to lay out an analogy to religion, it's fundamentally flawed. In order to make your scenario analogous to religion, the self replicating robots would have to create the "attached chip", not us.
This analogy assumes that a Creator God exists.
Anywho... the robots would probably behave much like us, except as robots. That is, no hesitation to kill enemies if it's logical, running complex mathematical equations in their heads in a second, plotting a nuclear war to take over the world... 
If the chip became corrupt in a few robots, the other non-corrupt robots would probably try to stamp out the other robots rather than engage in debate. The corrupted robots, not realizing their corruption, would attempt to do the same.
If the chip became corrupt in a few robots, the other non-corrupt robots would probably try to stamp out the other robots rather than engage in debate. The corrupted robots, not realizing their corruption, would attempt to do the same.
3.14
Well-Known Member
if they know everything about us probaly
"o my god did you know brent the waste droid made from all that junk a replication of the internet"
"no way where did he get all that garbage from ???"
"they say that hundreds of droids donated there earth story chip"
"well what are we waiting for lets go watch some droid on droid action "
"o my god did you know brent the waste droid made from all that junk a replication of the internet"
"no way where did he get all that garbage from ???"
"they say that hundreds of droids donated there earth story chip"
"well what are we waiting for lets go watch some droid on droid action "
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
They all have "made in China" stamped on their butts?
wa:do
wa:do
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Why must we have come from someplace other than our home here on Earth?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
**** poor analogy.
Where usually anologies or scenarios tend to assume the non existence.
You could consider planet Ponderbot as a type of learning/punishment place that the bots had to stay there until they discovered the truth, the prize being that they could return to a better planet ie Earth.
You could consider planet Ponderbot as a type of learning/punishment place that the bots had to stay there until they discovered the truth, the prize being that they could return to a better planet ie Earth.
BucephalusBB
ABACABB
As we humans can just be seen and they know how they could find us, all they need to do is find us..
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
except that now it makes even less sense.
We wouldn't send robots out whilly nilly to just exist... they would be there to gather information for us. Why wouldn't we want to get them back to get that information?
We can just send another ship with the data they need to return and another batch of robots to collect them. Indeed we can, and would keep in communication with them, to monitor them.
Other wise why would we care if they knew who we are? Why should they want to return to Earth?
wa:do
BucephalusBB
ABACABB
Have you ever seen "big brother"? We can perfectly put a few robots on a planet without a good reason
.I can also imagine that in the beginning of real AI we would want to observe what the robots will do without our input. It would be really easy to observe them without them knowing so..
.. ... because they can..
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
So if the point is to observe what AI robots would do without our input... why give them the "god chip" to begin with?
That contaminates the experiment.
And I think it would be impossible to observe them on another world without their knowledge. We can't camera trap a whole planet.
wa:do
That contaminates the experiment.
And I think it would be impossible to observe them on another world without their knowledge. We can't camera trap a whole planet.
wa:do
BucephalusBB
ABACABB
Trying to recreate planet earth?
Who says we only put up one planet? Maybe we put up several planets stuffed with robots, all with different charactistics to see differences.
Camera's???And I think it would be impossible to observe them on another world without their knowledge. We can't camera trap a whole planet.
wa:do
They are robots/computers silly.. Stuffed with all kinds of transmitting units. All you have to do is make your gpsunit, camera's in robot itself and sensors small enough for them to find out. Maybe 2 different circuits, one for conciousness, one for controll..
The chip is about planet Earth and the people who created them, because the robots are developing over time and forming their own opinions and ideas about the universe this makes it difficult for us to help them , we do send messages but only a few pick these up and even some of them ignore them as they think it a sign of malfunction.
The last time we tried we sent a robot up with with top class Earth to Ponder communicating device and a perfect chip some believed and converted, but it simply annoyed the self thinking ones and they decided it best to dismantle it.(this is why we think it unwise to send living humans, think they would appear to strange now to the bots, and likely to lose their lives)
The last time we tried we sent a robot up with with top class Earth to Ponder communicating device and a perfect chip some believed and converted, but it simply annoyed the self thinking ones and they decided it best to dismantle it.(this is why we think it unwise to send living humans, think they would appear to strange now to the bots, and likely to lose their lives)
BucephalusBB
ABACABB
So we are afraid of our creatures?
Not really, in the end we have total control, we only wish fo them to learn the truth, it is just a tad bit extreme wasting human life ,We must try to think up alternatives
We can send avatars but most of their eyes are faulty, we even sent instructions on how to develop the correct eye to see our avatars but most ignored the instructions, because to them we do not exist , there is no proof by their standards,and if they will not accept the eyes to enable them to examine the proof, what to do?
Do we have control of them "forming their own opinions and ideas about the universe"? Do we have control of them "ignoring the instructions"? It doesn't seem like we have control of anything.