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Plastic Bag Taxes Work

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You would think that the success of a chain like ALDI would demonstrate to other companies that they can eschew such packaging materials. And it would to nothing but profit them, because it would reduce their operating expenses. Right?
Aldi's approach might catch on more.
But they have a niche market.
The general culture should change.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I use the plastic bags from stores as garbage bags and to store things.
Those bags definitely can be useful. I get plenty from other stores.
I use them for carrying stuff to my MILs, picking up doggy do, I always use them again.
But since we stopped getting groceries in them the supply kinda matches the need.
Tom
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Yeah, I have a few around for garbage as well, though I don't generate much of that. I'm still working on my stockpile of bags from like... three years ago... lol.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
For better or worse, it seems only way to really get things done with respect to environmental causes is to push legislation through the system to force the needed changes. There are many case examples of this, but my attention was brought to the plastic bag issue by a recent news story. The idea of "bring your own bag" is not hard. It is, in fact, painfully easy to bring your own bag when you go on any shopping trip and eschew those horrid petroleum products that rubbish up the land and sea alike. But people don't do it. Anecdotally while I've observed a few more people BYOB, the vast majority still don't bother. It's mind-boggling.

Enter the plastic bag tax. I'm not a big fan of the idea, mostly because I think it speaks very poorly of our species that we would need such a thing to make the needed changes. But this idea works, and it works very well. England passed a resolution last year to introduce a 5p charge on plastic bags at megacorp retailers, and it's cut the waste by roughly 80% within a year. That is a huge victory. Across the pond, America has struggled to pass similar measures, and that's unfortunate. While some retailers give you 5¢ off for BYOB, that's not really much incentive. Things like this remind me of how very important environmental legislation is, and makes me very sad that America is terrible at doing it lately.

At any rate, when did you start BYOB? If you haven't, why the $#@% not? :p

If we have to go with a monetary incentive, I would rather see a refundable deposit.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
For what it's worth. ..
You don't have to take the bags when they are offered. If you run in to the store for just an item or two you will often be automatically given a bag. But you can just say "Don't bag it", and they won't.
Tom
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
If we have to go with a monetary incentive, I would rather see a refundable deposit.

Why is that? I prefer the tax, as that tax money gets used for good things (the full article I linked to talks about that more), and the money is consistently collected on all sales. :D
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Those bags definitely can be useful. I get plenty from other stores.
I use them for carrying stuff to my MILs, picking up doggy do, I always use them again.
But since we stopped getting groceries in them the supply kinda matches the need.
Tom

...Do you mean you use them again even after you've picked up doggy doo with them ?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It is sad that we need something like to get something significant done. I don't see it happening here at any point in my life though.
As for BYOB, there is a store here where you have to bring your own, which got me in the habit of bringing them, though I tend to use boxes. And when I use a bag, I have to say I prefer Menards. They are very thick, but very durable and long-lasting. Not like the "paper thin" bags at Kroger that tear before you even get them home.
 

Wirey

Fartist
For better or worse, it seems only way to really get things done with respect to environmental causes is to push legislation through the system to force the needed changes. There are many case examples of this, but my attention was brought to the plastic bag issue by a recent news story. The idea of "bring your own bag" is not hard. It is, in fact, painfully easy to bring your own bag when you go on any shopping trip and eschew those horrid petroleum products that rubbish up the land and sea alike. But people don't do it. Anecdotally while I've observed a few more people BYOB, the vast majority still don't bother. It's mind-boggling.

Enter the plastic bag tax. I'm not a big fan of the idea, mostly because I think it speaks very poorly of our species that we would need such a thing to make the needed changes. But this idea works, and it works very well. England passed a resolution last year to introduce a 5p charge on plastic bags at megacorp retailers, and it's cut the waste by roughly 80% within a year. That is a huge victory. Across the pond, America has struggled to pass similar measures, and that's unfortunate. While some retailers give you 5¢ off for BYOB, that's not really much incentive. Things like this remind me of how very important environmental legislation is, and makes me very sad that America is terrible at doing it lately.

At any rate, when did you start BYOB? If you haven't, why the $#@% not? :p

Fort McMurray in Alberta passed a by-law banning stores from issuing plastic bags. Everyone is required to bring their own.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Fort McMurray in Alberta passed a by-law banning stores from issuing plastic bags. Everyone is required to bring their own.
For their next law, it will be illegal to throw away a sock until the hole in it exceeds 5cm diameter.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
We should do what the the European continentals and old ladies everywhere do...get a shopping basket. You can get the ones that are like little suitcases on wheels and with a long handle. No more bags. No more fussin.
 
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