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Police Bodycam Video Shows Arab Man Mistaken As Member Of ISIS.

roger1440

I do stuff
You mean just having the dress different? Hmm, I thought Americans knew enough about normal clean white Arab dresses to not confuse them with dirty dark colored dresses seen on the media on terrorists. But yeah, I guess she panicked. I don't really put blame on anyone except for the wording of the report and the miscommunication they talked about, if there was any.

Maybe cops have orders to apprehend I S I S suspects for interrogation instead of shooting them on sight?
UAE warns travelers not to wear traditional dress after Emirati visitor is arrested in Ohio
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ss-after-emirati-visitor-is-arrested-in-ohio/
 

roger1440

I do stuff
If the guy was a terrorist I don't think he would have dressed the way he did. It would have drawn to much attention.

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Flankerl

Well-Known Member
What is even worse is that they then transported him to an US hospital which will bill him for at least 10000 dollars just for entering.

They went even full automatic rifle on him. Damn.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
Cops are underpaid and you get what you pay for (maybe, in this case, a little more). You want a lot more? Be prepared to raise standards and pay a lot more. Same sort of thing for teachers.
 

roger1440

I do stuff
From what I been reading from these posts many of you think the police handled the situation wrong. The cops get a call and told there is some ISIS dude at the hotel. What should have the cops done? Send out the welcome wagon and hand the guy a cake or some brownies?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
From what I been reading from these posts many of you think the police handled the situation wrong. The cops get a call and told there is some ISIS dude at the hotel. What should have the cops done?
When the guy is just standing there, with no weapon, the thing to do would be to approach him & talk to him.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Judging from the lose clothing there would have been no way to tell if the man had a weapon or not.
Even with typical western garb, there's no way to know if someone is armed.
To automatically presume such a danger with no visible indication would
mean that nearly everyone contacted by the cops would get a beating.
They over-reacted because of anti-Arab prejudice (IMO).
 

roger1440

I do stuff
Even with typical western garb, there's no way to know if someone is armed.
To automatically presume such a danger with no visible indication would
mean that nearly everyone contacted by the cops would get a beating.
They over-reacted because of anti-Arab prejudice (IMO).
So if the police get a call that some ISIS terrorist is at the local crowded mall, the police should casually walk up to the guy and have a friendly chat with him?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So if the police get a call that some ISIS terrorist is at the local crowded mall, the police should casually walk up to the guy and have a friendly chat with him?
If he appears to be just minding his own business, yes.
What is accomplished by having an entire herd of cops screaming (half unintelligibly) at him,
pointing guns at him, & then putting a knee on his neck while throwing his belongings about?
 

roger1440

I do stuff
If he appears to be just minding his own business, yes.
What is accomplished by having an entire herd of cops screaming (half unintelligibly) at him,
pointing guns at him, & then putting a knee on his neck while throwing his belongings about?
In a situation like that, the first thing the police need to do is take control. They don't have time to second guess. Once control is taken then they move from there.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
From what I been reading from these posts many of you think the police handled the situation wrong. The cops get a call and told there is some ISIS dude at the hotel. What should have the cops done? Send out the welcome wagon and hand the guy a cake or some brownies?

I don't think they did, I just think some of the details could have been handled better, and that they were controversial wrong, not wrong per se. Like for example putting knee on his neck while there's tons of cops and restraining the head and arms would have been easy, and throwing the cell phone into the bushes while it was possible to just throw it to a visible please. Procedures should cover both possibilities of safe and dangerous outcomes, not just either. So no, no cakes or brownies :p

Over all, I'd evaluate their handling the situation as good with a 85% grade success, and could have been better. False alerts are not unheard of, or even killing innocent suspects.
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
The woman who said she heard the man talking about Isis is clearly parano.

Some months ago (may) in a plan a woman thought a man was a terrorist because he was wrinting in "arabic" :

"The curly-haired man was, the agent informed him politely, suspected of terrorism.
The curly-haired man laughed.
He laughed because those scribbles weren’t Arabic, or another foreign language, or even some special secret terrorist code. They were math.
Yes, math. A differential equation, to be exact."

"he — Guido Menzio — is a young but decorated Ivy League economist. And that he’s best known for his relatively technical work on search theory, which helped earn him a tenured associate professorship at the University of Pennsylvania as well as stints at Princeton and Stanford’s Hoover Institution."

"That’s right: He’s Italian, not Middle Eastern, or whatever heritage usually gets ethnically profiled on flights these days."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-for-doing-math-on-american-airlines-flight/

No it's not arabic :)

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Also some months ago because a texto in arabic :

"EasyJet have been forced to apologise to a scientist who was hauled off a London-bound flight because a passenger suspected he was an Islamic extremist.
Mr Dewachi says that the airline abandoned him at the airport without a flight and without a phone, leaving him to fork out hundreds of pounds to get back to the UK.
The scientist has lived in Britain for six years, studying for a Master's degree and then a PhD in biochemistry at Sheffield Hallam."

'It transpired a woman passenger had seen me texting my wife in Arabic, my mother language, and for some inexplicable reason suspected I was a terrorist.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-hauled-London-bound-flight-terror-fears.html

So @Smart_Guy be careful if you take a plane from now on ! :D
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
So @Smart_Guy be careful if you take a plane from now on ! :D

I don't think I will get in trouble in any plane with my good looks :D

Um, joking aside, I do run my imagination because of this sometimes. My cousin suggested we go to Disney Land somewhere in USA and I was like >>> :neutral: with a blank mind haha.
 

roger1440

I do stuff
Can you plz mention in the link ,where they ask the men to do not wear traditional dress in USA ?
The link I had provided didn’t come right out and say don’t wear traditional attire put it did point in that direction. Here is a better link, I think. I can’t read it. It’s not in English.

Emirates Advises Citizens Not To Wear Traditional Dress While Traveling

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...not-to-wear-traditional-dress-while-traveling

“The tweet advises UAE citizens to avoid wearing Emirati national dress while traveling abroad, and particularly in public places, "in order to preserve their safety." It came from an official government Twitter account used to provide advice to Emiratis traveling abroad.”

The Twitter account isn’t in English.
 
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