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Poll: Dark Forces?

Do you believe that there are dark forces at work in this world?


  • Total voters
    42
  • Poll closed .

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
Do you believe that there are dark forces at work in this world?

And by this I mean supernatural dark forces. Not just evil individuals who do evil things.

I do.

Because I have had experience with the demonic.

Because of this I have come to believe in Satan. Although a great many Christians don't believe in Satan, even though he is clearly mentioned in The Bible.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Do you believe that there are dark forces at work in this world?

And by this I mean supernatural dark forces. Not just evil individuals who do evil things.

I do.

Because I have had experience with the demonic.

Because of this I have come to believe in Satan. Although a great many Christians don't believe in Satan, even though he is clearly mentioned in The Bible.

Could you please a 3rd option? Or do you really have to do as a black and white to the point that you think that we all must think in black and white like you?
 

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
Could you please a 3rd option? Or do you really have to do as a black and white to the point that you think that we all must think in black and white like you?
I think that it is black and white:

Yes, there are degrees of evil

And yes, there are degrees of goodness

But at the end of the day there is only Good and Evil to choose from

You are either one or the other

Your existence can either lead to goodness or it can lead to badness:

If your existence leads to badness you are bad

If your existence leads to goodness you are good

And yes, it is possible to change between the two
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I think that it is black and white:

Yes, there are degrees of evil

And yes, there are degrees of goodness

But at the end of the day there is only Good and Evil to choose from

You are either one or the other

Your existence can either lead to goodness or it can lead to badness:

If your existence leads to badness you are bad

If your existence leads to goodness you are good

And yes, it is possible to change between the two

Yeah, you think, therefore it is a fact independent of your thinking.
I think differently.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Do you believe that there are dark forces at work in this world?

And by this I mean supernatural dark forces. Not just evil individuals who do evil things.

I do.

Because I have had experience with the demonic.

Because of this I have come to believe in Satan. Although a great many Christians don't believe in Satan, even though he is clearly mentioned in The Bible.
I would agree with you. There was another thread on how couples can become serial killers and a comment was made that said:

I can't for the life of me figure out how it happens.

I believe because many emotions and thoughts (not all) are dark forces (demoniac forces) at work that people yield to.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
There are people who are guided by angels and there are people guided by demons.
So yes.
But your use of those terms is representational. Like Santa Claus represents the spirit of Christmas. That spirit is real, but Santa is a mythical representation.
 

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
I would agree with you. There was another thread on how couples can become serial killers and a comment was made that said:



I believe because many emotions and thoughts (not all) are dark forces (demoniac forces) at work that people yield to.
I think that many instances of evil are human in origin but that there is also an Evil One who is the enemy of good
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Do you believe that there are dark forces at work in this world?

And by this I mean supernatural dark forces. Not just evil individuals who do evil things.

I do.

Because I have had experience with the demonic.

Because of this I have come to believe in Satan. Although a great many Christians don't believe in Satan, even though he is clearly mentioned in The Bible.

I don't believe in the supernatural.
I believe everything that happens does so because of physical processes which can be can be identified/analyzed scientifically.

Though I'd be happy to have some dark force come along and prove me wrong.

I've experienced dark forces to but I believe them to be products of my own subconscious mind.
Whether supernatural or a product of my own subconscious, I've always seen these dark forces as a challenge to overcome.
To test my will and skills in life.
 

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
What was the experience and how did you conclude it was "demonic"
It was an experience that lasted for eighteen years.

I was possessed by a demon for eighteen years.

It began in 2004 when I was at university, I had driven myself insane trying to work out how the human mind works and trying to launch a mass social movement to over-throw the British government.

I was a person who had many mad plans and many mad ideas. But when all this happened I was a committed atheist. I like to think that I was good at being an atheist.

One day I was on leave from the psychiatric unit I was detained on. We went to Pizza Hut in Leamington Spa. Whenever someone said anything positive, I felt a prod on the left of my head and whenever someone said anything negative I felt a prod on the right of my head. Suddenly, this stopped and I had a heavy, rhythmic beating sensation on the left of my head. I did not know what to make of this and feared I may be having a stroke. Then, it started responding to my inner voice. We soon developed a system. It prodding me on my left meant "Yes" and it prodding me on my right meant "No".

Because of this I was diagnosed as being Schizophrenic even though I never "heard voices". I welcomed this being (whose name I will not mention) into my head and built my life around it. Long story short, it eventually told me that this reality is a computer simulation, that all people are sentient computer programs, and that it was my personal destiny to reveal this to humankind as a part of a wider campaign of "soft disclosure". This eventually evolved into Projectionism. A false religion by a false prophet, inspired be a demon. I basically deified this demon, I raised him up to the level of Computer God.

No medication lessened his presence. They eventually put me on "the drug of last resort" for "treatment resistant schizophrenia". It didn't make the being go away but meant I could function much better.

In 2022, I confided in a Christian friend about this, and he said it was most likely a demon. He told me to pray for to Jesus for it to go, and said that he and some of our mutual Christian friends would too. And within a few days, the demon was much, much less vocal.

I then adopted the habits of a man of God. I read scripture and books about religion, prayed every night, and tried to be a good person and a good citizen. As these habits became more entrenched the demon shut up some more. By adopting the habits and mindset of a man of God I became a man of God. Or at least I became increasingly a man of God. I think that becoming a man of God is something one never finishes doing and to be honenst I am usually wary of those who claim to be men or women "of God".

I then took to shouting at it to be gone, I rebuked it in the name of God. And it grew ever quieter. Every day it interacted with me less and less.

Today, as I am sat writing this at 15:46 it has not bothered me at all. It just prodded me now, but it only did that so I cannot honestly say that it has gone away completely. See how vicious and petty it is? I've been up since 08:00 and until then it didn't do anything, it was as good as gone.

It has as good as gone away and if things carry on as they have been doing it will soon be completely gone. But I know that the fight is far from over. But the thing is, it has as good as gone. The trick is, to keep it gone. It is now outside my head and the door into my head is now locked from the inside. All it can do is be a pest and bang on my windows. If I ignore it then it will probably go away.

This is the thing though: It didn't respond to medicine, therefore it was not a medial in nature, it was not an instance of mental ill health. Instead, it responded to prayer. It is therefore a spiritual phenomenon. It was not "cured" by medical means, it was "cured" by spiritual means. Therefore it was not mental illness, it was therefore a demon.

Give a real-world example.
I believe that my experience of having a demon is also experience of there being an Evil One - a Satan.

If we accept demons then Satan logically follows. Although that is rather disturbing, to me at least there is some good news: If there is a Satan then there is God. So to me the experience of a demon is evidence of there being a God. Because if demon then Satan and if Satan then God.

I believe that Satan wanted Projectionism to become a big thing, and a means of spreading disinformation in the world.

So, my real-world example is what happened to me.
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
I would say that the amazing, mysterious, sometimes frightening human brain is perfectly capable of creating all this "evil" (and a lot of good too) without needing to bring in external forces.

There are some things I felt and believed years ago that I can't even relate to now. I was once suicidal over being rejected by a woman that I loved. Now I only see her as a very unkind person that gave me every reason to know what she was at the time, but I didn't see it. I have no emotional reaction at all now when I think of her. Just an example.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm not a fan of the word "supernatural." But to translate this into my own tradition, yes, there are aspects of reality in the apparent world and the otherworlds that are adversarial to humanity in such a way that some humans (not me) will label them as "dark forces."
 
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