Poll for Heterosexuals—Please!

[James the Persian]

I would do them all. I'd undress in front of gay women in a locker room. Heck, I usually have had to undress in quick costume changes in the wings for a show, where there were dozens of crew standing around and I had no choice but to reveal T&A! In show business, a lot of times modesty has to go right out the window. I'd also shower with gay women in public showers. Already have. I've even showered in the same area as heterosexual men when seperate showers in the theatre weren't available.


Never had an awkward moment. Ever.



Peace,
Mystic

Ah, I see you interpreted the shower/bathe with someone in a different way from me. What you describe - use public showers, say in a swimming pool or something - I have of course done without any problems. There's a good chance that I've done it in the presence of gay men and I've certainly done it in the presence of heterosexual women (a German camp site that didn't have separate bathrooms for diferent sexes) but I don't consider that as showering with someone, just in their presence, if you see what I mean. That is just public nudity and wouldn't really concern me. In retrospect,I think it was I who misinterpreted the question.

James

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Ah, I see you interpreted the shower/bathe with someone in a different way from me. What you describe - use public showers, say in a swimming pool or something - I have of course done without any problems. There's a good chance that I've done it in the presence of gay men and I've certainly done it in the presence of heterosexual women (a German camp site that didn't have separate bathrooms for diferent sexes) but I don't consider that as showering with someone, just in their presence, if you see what I mean. That is just public nudity and wouldn't really concern me. In retrospect,I think it was I who misinterpreted the question.

James

Perhaps. I didn't interpret showering/bathing as the kind that is an "erotic prelude" to something else. Most always, I see it as washing skin.



Peace,
Mystic

 

[Radio Frequency X]

were you either in the military or in a college dorm? if so aren't community showers the norm? They were for me in college. as far as locker rooms go i never had any problems at the ymca when I was in my 20's and there is a large difference between undressing infront of someone and someone making a pass at you. one is passive and one is active. from my interpretation of the poll the acts are passive in nature which means you are in the same vicintity of the gay person as opposed to actively ingaged in some way with the gay person.

Community Showers aren't bad and I'm sure I've showered with gay guys before. I'm sure there have been a great many of them who were respectful, but it is the ones that aren't respectful, the ones that flirt in the locker room that make me uncomfortable. It's the ones that look me up and down that make me uncomfortable. So the question just isn't really phrased well I guess. If the gay man in question was a friend whom I respected and who respected me, I don't see it being a problem. But, like when I was in college, there were these two guys that would hit on my every time I was in the locker room. So, I wouldn't shower or change in front of them, I'd just go work out some more until they were gone.

How would a straight woman feel if a straight man was in their locker room, flirting with them or looking them up and down while they changed and showered? Wouldn't they also be uncomfortable?

 

[Pardus]

Aslong as the person is not offended, i have no problem with doing any of those things around anyone.

Obviously familiarity with the person comes up as a given.

My only problem with any of those things would have more to do with my fear of other people in general.

 

[Ozzie]

My interest in this forum began the day that I saw a poll concerning gays in the military. The statements I made that day reflected what I had seen, as far as the overall group dynamics, in the military. I addressed certain issues concerning prevalent homophobia as well as the living conditions in the military (such as living quarters, etc.). From that day forward, I have continued to read threads on this forum concerning the views on homosexuality. Sadly, if this forum is (even minutely) indicative of what the gay community has to face on a daily basis, it is no surprise why there are so many hurdles to overcome. That is why I decided on this poll. This thread was created to address fears--real ones--and honestly.



Thank you all in advance.

Mate, discover yourself please

 

[PetShopBoy88]

I checked 4, in a row, starting with undress in front of that person. For the most part, I wouldn't do those things for anybody, though.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Community Showers aren't bad and I'm sure I've showered with gay guys before. I'm sure there have been a great many of them who were respectful, but it is the ones that aren't respectful, the ones that flirt in the locker room that make me uncomfortable. It's the ones that look me up and down that make me uncomfortable. So the question just isn't really phrased well I guess. If the gay man in question was a friend whom I respected and who respected me, I don't see it being a problem. But, like when I was in college, there were these two guys that would hit on my every time I was in the locker room. So, I wouldn't shower or change in front of them, I'd just go work out some more until they were gone.

How would a straight woman feel if a straight man was in their locker room, flirting with them or looking them up and down while they changed and showered? Wouldn't they also be uncomfortable?

I don't know if "uncomfortable" is the right word for me, personally. Annoyed as ****, but not uncomfortable. If anyone would have the audacity to try that with me, I'd say only two words to them:


Grow up.



And if they were to continue, I have a foot that would love to meet their groin sometime.



Peace,
Mystic

 

[zombieharlot]

Mate, discover yourself please

And here I thought this forum was to help others discover, not point fingers at those that need to.

 

[Hema]

Undress and shower.

 

[Papersock]

I voted for shower/bathe but then I realized I shouldn't have voted because the reason has nothing to do with the person being homosexual.
And then I realized that you might have meant communal showers. In that case It wouldn't matter.

 

[Radio Frequency X]

I don't know if "uncomfortable" is the right word for me, personally. Annoyed as ****, but not uncomfortable. If anyone would have the audacity to try that with me, I'd say only two words to them:

Grow up.

And if they were to continue, I have a foot that would love to meet their groin sometime.

I just mocked them and walked away. But I wouldn't use the locker room while they were there. I have no idea how many homosexuals are respectful in that situation, because they all went unnoticed. That's the problem here, only the disrespectful are noticed. It's hard to remember that the majority are probably respectful and understanding of the sexual implications of their presence in an all male locker room.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

My answer to all of the poll options are functionally equivalent to what I would feel comfortable doing around a straight woman that is not my g/f or wife. Which is to say, nearly all of them except:

Shower or bathe with the person, if we are speaking about in a single bathroom/tub at the same time. If you are talking about a locker room situation, no problem. If you are talking about taking turns with the single bathroom, no problem.

I would say the same, not out of fear or worry, but because I wouldn't want to send mixed messages. Of course, if we were both naturists and saw nothing obscene or sexual about any part of the body, I probably wouldn't care. Oh and I said undressing as well, for the same reason.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

You get to do that in the Marines? Oh, why didn't I join when I was younger!

Sunstone wins. :bow:

 

[jonny]

I put showering and undressing. I'm not really comfortable doing those things in front of heterosexuals either, so I don't know if it's really a good gauge on anything. I've done quite a few of the others and it hasn't been an issue or bothered me.

 

[Anti-World]

The ones I voted on really didn't have anything to do with them being homosexual. I simply don't do those things with anyone... Well... With very very few exceptions.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

Looks like most people who said "yes" in some regard picked "showering" and "undressing." ...is it just me, or do many threads around here somehow degrade into a discussion of sex?

Now, for those who picked several or all of the other options, are you brave enough to come forth and explain why?

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

OK I just realized something. When I saw the word "gay" in the OP, I was assuming this only dealt with gay men and not gays of both sexes.

So hell, in all honesty, I can't think of any of these things that I'd be reluctant to do around a woman just because she's a lesbian. Again, that's functionally equivalent to what I'd do in the presence of a straight guy, which is basically anything we're comfortable with.

 

[methylatedghosts]

Seems most of us vote with assumptions about the OP....

I think it tells us more about ourselves than anything else...

sure counts for me anyway

 

[Radio Frequency X]

I think the poll results are rather optimistic.

 

[michel]

Undress in front of that person ; besides, I hate having to do that with heterosexuals anyway - I guess that would be "nothing" then.