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Are you saying that the Quran has had words removed to make it better, by making it less clear?I explained. In the past, holy books would have such words where they were too clear and unambiguous removed.
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Are you saying that the Quran has had words removed to make it better, by making it less clear?I explained. In the past, holy books would have such words where they were too clear and unambiguous removed.
Nope. You have completely lost me here.Your way would be better for any holy book except the last one that needs to be safeguarded. The final book has to be not to explicitly clear or else it will face corruption and removal of words or change of words.
What was ambiguous about the original?The Quran has multiple faces for a reason. It's an easy trial, soften your heart and everything will be clear, don't and things will get ambiguous real quick and you won't understand.
Salam
There is many ways to know Quran is true. One of them is to just let the Quran speak to your soul. If you do, you will see how Quran heals and reminds. It's exalted spirituality is also a sign and the way God talks about it not being wussy flowery like Rumi nor Wahabi military scholars "worship God" style (I'm speaking metaphorically, I have nothing against Rumi poems), the way God talks and the exalted personality it reveals is a sign from God.
This perhaps the easiest way to recognize it's from God.
Salam
@Augustus
When writing poems, you sometimes make a meaning with rhythm. You sacrifice often better meaning to make it sound good. Sometimes you might forego better rhyme because the meaning it to shallow and so you pick lesser of two sounds for better meaning. I think @firedragon is saying, one of the features of Quran, it has perfect sound with perfect meaning. Both. No meaning is sacrificed for the other and no sound is sacrificed for meaning. That's a bit too good don't you think? Neither can the be meaning be better picked nor the way it sounds. Both together is too good.
If not, let's see humans do something like that.
Exactly, it is painting a target around the arrow then saying other arrows are not on target.They might also create a method of analysing what makes the perfect song, by identifying the compositional and lyrical make up of the song. By these standards, the song would be inimitable, no song could better fit these criteria than Sympathy for the devil.
But you are not addressing the issue.You would improve it if it was not the case that Mohammad (s) is the Seal of Anbiya. But as the final book to humanity, it has to go this approach.
If Mohammad (s) was not the last Nabi, you would have a valid point.
Every time you post nonsense, I will correct it. It's my job.Anyways, no point of repeating.
According to hadith, Buraj was a donkey with telescopic legs that could cross mountains with one step - which is both cool and utterly weird.For you perhaps,I actually like poetry but why would a God that is omnipotent omniscient omnipresent need poetry in a book to make people believe?.
For example “the Miraj or “night fligh” by Muhammed,the Burag flying horse or Mule,for me it has the flavour of the “Arabian nights” folktale,it is unbelievable because it has no precedent,there are no flying horses or Mules ever recorded and even if you put it into prose there really isn’t any empirical truth in one Syrah imo.
According to hadith, Buraj was a donkey with telescopic legs that could cross mountains with one step - which is both cool and utterly weird.
Go go gadget donkey legs lolAccording to hadith, Buraj was a donkey with telescopic legs that could cross mountains with one step - which is both cool and utterly weird.
Your excuse that the Quran is better because it is unclear and ambiguous in its instructions on how to treat women is obvious nonsense
For you perhaps,I actually like poetry but why would a God that is omnipotent omniscient omnipresent need poetry in a book to make people believe?.
For example “the Miraj or “night fligh” by Muhammed,the Burag flying horse or Mule,for me it has the flavour of the “Arabian nights” folktale,it is unbelievable because it has no precedent,there are no flying horses or Mules ever recorded and even if you put it into prose there really isn’t any empirical truth in one Syrah imo.
May Peace be upon you
Buraq (although I believe it) is found in the hadiths, not Quran.
Buraq perhaps is a metaphor to what "desire" was created for, and the highest form of desire takes on a spiritual form that is an Angelic Animal.
There is hadiths that Night Journey is ascension and spiritual, and that he ascended by his spirit.
The same desire we have for sex, if we recall God's Light and spiritual pleasure, we can upgrade it and make it go beyond it's animal type and "evolve it".
So when we "sacrifice" ritually an animal, it represents an act inward, we are "sacrificing the animal self" and inshallah it will become something higher. We trade lower pleasures for higher pleasures inwardly as we "kill" the physical animal outwardly.
There is also the sword of God reality that Mohammad (s) is as well. So he is told "to connect (humans and Jinn) to God and sacrifice (ritually)". It's him and his Ahlulbayt (a) who are the foundation of all goodness, and so they know how to evolve the desire to something higher. Trust in their guidance, and we too will be given "Al-Buraq" or own version of it.
Mohammad's (s) is the fastest traveler to God because he desires God the most.
Imam Jaffar (a) says "slit the throat of caprice/desire when you slaughter (ritually the animal)" in Misbahal Shariah.
Desire of pleasure with God and his spiritual sustenance is one side of "journeying to God".
The same thing that makes you enjoy food in this world and sex, can be evolved to enjoy God's spiritual sustenance and enjoy the beauty and adornment of the lights of God.
The Sunnah talked about Buraq, it's a reality, in the unseen sky world though. Angels and Sky/heaven world, they have to be described by metaphors, because their reality transcends normal dimensions we are use to.
The “unseen sky world” isn’t a reality though,that’s why l think that so called holy books are books totally dependent on faith not facts.
Salam
Yet to those who experience the unseen light, it's a fact.
That can’t be verified,that’s the problem.
It can't be verified through testimony of others. But unseen whether Satanic or Angelic, from Iblis or from Imam, is a reality most of the world experiences.
Magic whether in the world of darkness and illusion or is at the level of God's sustenance from his heaven/sky and is the "truth" from him, is experienced by most of the world.
This doesn't prove to a person not experiencing it to be true - it's true we can all be "deluded" and "experiencing" illusion, for all you know.
But if you go to sorcerers or followers of Imams (a), astray or guided in unseen world, they all have proof for it, whether it be Genies/Jinn or miracles done by the power of holy spirit/Imam.
Whether to polytheists and their gods or God's chosen servants, unseen reality can be experienced directly.
If you want to stay in your little bubble imagining everyone is deluded, that's up to you.
Deluded nah,mostly people are born into a belief system,Abrahmics Hindus whatever,I was born and baptised into Christianity but not strict so could question everything,personally proselytising an old religion is up against it nowadays,people have so much more freedom to think outside of the box imo.