[Poll] What is Your Level of Spirituality?

[SalixIncendium]

7.4.

I'm on Level 42.

 

[Quintessence]

Where'd you get this particular schema from? I've seen a more well-developed paradigm describing "levels" of "spiritual development" but it didn't look like this one. It has its flaws.

The Stages of Faith According to James W. Fowler |

James Fowler's seven stages of faith:charting the development of an individual's understanding of matters related to religion, morals, and the divine.

www.institute4learning.com

 

[The Dreamer]

Become?

I think in level 3 you have glimpses on the nature of reality and consciousness but you are still human. On level 4 you are beyond human.

 

[ChristineM]

Try shoveling it for four hours a day seven days a week.
First and last time I volunteered to work on that (or any other) ranch.

I was brought up on a farm, much of my pocket money was earned shoveling cow **** before going to school.

 

[The Dreamer]

Where'd you get this particular schema from? I've seen a more well-developed paradigm describing "levels" of "spiritual development" but it didn't look like this one. It has its flaws.

The Stages of Faith According to James W. Fowler |

James Fowler's seven stages of faith:charting the development of an individual's understanding of matters related to religion, morals, and the divine.

www.institute4learning.com

I made it up based on my ideas It is for fun but I believe in it too.

 

[McBell]

I was brought up on a farm, much of my pocket money was earned shoveling cow **** before going to school.

I signed up for an eight month "tour".
In my defense, she was really really hot.

Sadly, she liked my sister more than she liked me.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I think in level 3 you have glimpses on the nature of reality and consciousness but you are still human. On level 4 you are beyond human.

I think I understand your perspective here.

As I see it, one is always that nature, but is merely in ignorance of this. There is nothing to become. With practice, those "glimpses" become stable and consistent.

 

[The Dreamer]

You don't become God, you just die, and then God is (non-duality aka Only God Alone exists).

But Religious-God-Consciousness is Higher.

Nevertheless... God is The Absolute Truth.

The ego is falsehood. It can only die. Then God IS. The ego can never become God.

By dying you mean the death of both the body and ego or just the death of the ego?

 

[Secret Chief]

I'm on Level 42.

 

[The Dreamer]

I think I understand your perspective here.

As I see it, one is always that nature, but is merely in ignorance of this. There is nothing to become. With practice, those "glimpses" become stable and consistent.

Yes that makes sense but I think there will still be a radical change in self perception.

 

[Vinayaka]

I was brought up on a farm, much of my pocket money was earned shoveling cow **** before going to school.

We didn't get paid. But I could rank the animal by difficulty (stench) . Level 1- horses, the best Level 2 - cattle Level 3 - getting tougher - swine Level 4- the worst - chickens If Mom was really upset, it was the chicken coop. There you hat to take a break every few minutes or so.

You got paid?

 

[ChristineM]

We didn't get paid. But I could rank the animal by difficulty (stench) . Level 1- horses, the best Level 2 - cattle Level 3 - getting tougher - swine Level 4- the worst - chickens If Mom was really upset, it was the chicken coop. There you hat to take a break every few minutes or so.

You got paid?

It was a dairy farm so mostly cattle, but mom kept chickens so yes i agree that the throat burning vinegar stench is worst.

Yes i got paid, trust me here, it was much less than minimum wage.

 

[Vinayaka]

It was a dairy farm so mostly cattle, but mom kept chickens so yes i agree that the throat burning vinegar stench is worst.

Yes i got paid, trust me here, it was much less than minimum wage.

Ours was mixed farm. We had a bit of everything. Usually only one horse, but I've been around them. Which breed was your dairy farm? We (Mom mostly) milked as many as 6 at a time, Airedale, Holstein, Brown Swiss, some mixed. It was mostly food (milk cream, butter) Mom shipped some cream for pocket money. Eggs too. The mixed farm here in Canada is almost extinct now, but it provided a well rounded environment for growing up.

 

[Link]

The down to earth spirituality, where good is rewarded with goodness, and evil with evil, is simple, clear, and being truthful to oneself, one knows that is the reality of justice and God is not unjust.

Asking God forgiveness means to seek him to change you from bad to good through his help and grace, and it doesn't mean being bad and expecting to be forgiven.

 

[Soandso]

I'd consider myself between 1 and 2. I think science has the best method to figure out how things work in the real world, but I also think there is a hell of a lot of things to discover in the years to come. I'm excited to see what understanding comes to light in the future

For now I'm a tentative naturalist and materialist, but I'm open to new ideas as long as they are reasonably grounded

I'll select 1 though as I do tend towards that side a little more

 

[ChristineM]

Ours was mixed farm. We had a bit of everything. Usually only one horse, but I've been around them. Which breed was your dairy farm? We (Mom mostly) milked as many as 6 at a time, Airedale, Holstein, Brown Swiss, some mixed. It was mostly food (milk cream, butter) Mom shipped some cream for pocket money. Eggs too. The mixed farm here in Canada is almost extinct now, but it provided a well rounded environment for growing up.

Dad had give or take 60 Holsteins and Herefords for milk so i got roped in to milking too. Mom had chicken and duck for the eggs and Sunday lunch, she also had a small veg garden. They retired last October so are now catch up on the travel they missed out on for nearly 60 years

 

[Vinayaka]

Dad had give or take 60 Holsteins and Herefords for milk so i got roped in to milking too. Mom had chicken and duck for the eggs and Sunday lunch, she also had a small veg garden. They retired last October so are now catch up on the travel they missed out on for nearly 60 years

Good on them. Where are they going?
I recall how we could rarely travel. Fortunately we lived 2 miles from Dad's brother, and they took turns doing each other's chores. Still, 2 or 3 days was about the limit.
My uncle had purebred Herefords, but Dad had Shorthorn. Each had a herd of about 30 for beef cattle.
Were you ever around sheep?

 

[ChristineM]

Good on them. Where are they going?
I recall how we could rarely travel. Fortunately we lived 2 miles from Dad's brother, and they took turns doing each other's chores. Still, 2 or 3 days was about the limit.
My uncle had purebred Herefords, but Dad had Shorthorn. Each had a herd of about 30 for beef cattle.
Were you ever around sheep?

They came here (France) over Christmas, then on to Spain to meet family for the first time in years. Home then to Italy. home again and are preparing to got to new Zealand for a month.

Sheep, no. Goats, i had a couple before i left the UK, mostly for keeping the grass short and eating my sweaters.

 

[Vinayaka]

They came here (France) over Christmas, then on to Spain to meet family for the first time in years. Home then to Italy. home again and are preparing to got to new Zealand for a month.

Sheep, no. Goats, i had a couple before i left the UK, mostly for keeping the grass short and eating my sweaters.

Was the sweater angora? If so, maybe the goats were being amorous with it.

 

[Father Heathen]

My spirituality level buffer overflowed.