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Polls and political markets before and after 1st Republican debate

F1fan

Veteran Member
The USA contributes 14% of the total manmade global CO2. Yet the Democrats want the USA to sends $trillions around the world to be skimmed. This is the dirty secret.
Would you rather spend trillions on fixing communities that get destroyed by storms and fire? And it won't end there because the causes of the more severe weather hasn't been addressed, so even more money. The right can't seem to get out of their own way, as if you guys believe you have some safe place to go if the climate gets too problematic for stable living.
Until and unless the other 86% does its fair share, this is money grab. The USA cannot reduce enough CO2, to offset China and India. We can do 14% max and then the country collapses. The Democrat plan is to hurt our economy, while China get to build the old fashion way, without constraints. This is not rational, unless the leaders in the Democrat party expect to get skim or kickback, so they can be set for life.
And as long as we keep buying Chinese products because they are cheap, and our economy depends on consumerism, nothing will change there. There is more pressure on China to adopt cleaner energy production, and that's all we can do. Realize that China is being as irrational as climate change deniers, who tend to be conservatives.
This bonehead solution is why I have suggested taming the fires in Africa to lower the natural CO2 as an offset. CO2 can come from anywhere and be affective. The annual African wild fires make trillions of tons of CO2 each year. Even a 10% reduction is huge. China and India would both want to invest in this offset; constructive zero sum game.

The point is for humans to reduse what we contribute. A hotter planet means more drought and more fires, so at some point we may face a point of no return. Too little, too late.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Gotta love this! We're destroying the only planet we have to live on, but if the other guy won't do his bit, why should we?

Of course, the upshot of such thinking is that it will only make the end come that much sooner. Congratulations, I guess, on not prolonging the suffering. :eek:
Of course the leaders spearheading and hollering over climate change don't lead by example themselves.

Kinda tells the priority and urgency here is nothing but political rather than preservation.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
OK... 5 days minus 1 hour afterwards.

Here are the change amounts. Do the operation to get the current value.

predictit Republican nominee Trump 58+4 Ramaswamy 21-4 DeSantis 15+1 Christie 8-5 Scott 7-4 Haley 4+4 Youngkin 4+0 Pence 2+0

fivethirtyeight Republican poll of polls Trump 52.1 -2.2 DeSantis 15.2 -0.3 Ramaswamy 9.7 +0.4 Pence 4.3+0.7 Scott 3.6+0 Haley 3.4+2 Christie 3.3+0.5

Real Clear Politics national: Trump 55.4-2.4 DeSantis 14.3-1.3 Ramaswamy 7.2+0.3 Pence 4.0 replaced with Haley 5.0

Real Clear Politics betting average Republican nominee Trump 60.7+0.5 Ramaswamy 13.5-2 DeSantis 10.0+1 Scott 3.3 replaced with Haley 4.2
 
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