Poor Little Dem's Mad: Taking Their Ball and Going Home

[QuestioningMind]

LOL, You demonstrated your ignorance of the founders of socialism, your ignorance of those you support, and your ignorance of what you actually believe. You are stunningly ignorant.

Your ignorance about what I'm ignorant about is truly phenomenal. Thanks once again for demonstrating as much.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

To argue that something is a lie...not based upon
analysis...but rather upon a preponderance of lying
(using the same standard) is fishy. One might say
that judging based upon such prejudice could earn
one the accusation of "sucker".
Luckily, I wouldn't do that.

Oh, to clarify, I did not mean to "argue that something is a lie" as you said above. I meant to argue that a person who lies as much as Trump loses the benefit of the doubt.

That does not mean everything he says is necessarily a lie. Some of it is surely true. He just has lost the usual benefit of the doubt that you alluded to where we chalk up an apparent falsehood to a difference of opinion, or mistake of fact, etc. That's an adult, or "big person" privilege.

Btw, the post I quoted above just reeks of personal
disdain, not just for Trump, but for me. You should
work on that for more civility, equanimity, & objectivity.

To be clear, no disdain for you was intended. I must say I am surprised, since my only references to "you" were (1) I agree with you (which I said perhaps 3x) and (2) except in extraordinary cases, and Trump is an extraordinary case. I further said you would have to be blind not to see that Trump is an extraordinary case ... I said using the generic "you", as in, "one", and assuming, surely, that "you" specifically agree (and are therefore not "blind"). From my perspective, I am criticizing Trump, and supporting that criticism with facts where appropriate (I can cite more if that is an issue - let me know, I don't want to bore you with 15,000 documented lies). You seem to be taking that personally, for reasons I can't understand.

I note that you did not question the factual evidence I provided to support my view that Trump is a serial liar. Nor did you express disagreement that he is a serial liar, or try to defend Trump's honesty. Which is kind of the meat of this discussion - it's the ballgame, really. I get the feeling that you agree with me, but you don't want to agree with me. Why is that, I wonder? Wouldn't it feel so good to just ... you know ... stop defending this guy? You're so much better than him. So is the Republican Party. Come on in, the water's just fine ...

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh, to clarify, I did not mean to "argue that something is a lie" as you said above. I meant to argue that a person who lies as much as Trump loses the benefit of the doubt.

That does not mean everything he says is necessarily a lie. Some of it is surely true. He just has lost the usual benefit of the doubt that you alluded to where we chalk up an apparent falsehood to a difference of opinion, or mistake of fact, etc. That's an adult, or "big person" privilege.

To be clear, no disdain for you was intended. I must say I am surprised, since my only references to "you" were (1) I agree with you (which I said perhaps 3x) and (2) except in extraordinary cases, and Trump is an extraordinary case. I further said you would have to be blind not to see that Trump is an extraordinary case ... I said using the generic "you", as in, "one", and assuming, surely, that "you" specifically agree (and are therefore not "blind"). From my perspective, I am criticizing Trump, and supporting that criticism with facts where appropriate (I can cite more if that is an issue - let me know, I don't want to bore you with 15,000 documented lies). You seem to be taking that personally, for reasons I can't understand.

I note that you did not question the factual evidence I provided to support my view that Trump is a serial liar. Nor did you express disagreement that he is a serial liar, or try to defend Trump's honesty. Which is kind of the meat of this discussion - it's the ballgame, really. I get the feeling that you agree with me, but you don't want to agree with me. Why is that, I wonder? Wouldn't it feel so good to just ... you know ... stop defending this guy? You're so much better than him. So is the Republican Party. Come on in, the water's just fine ...

Caution!
Non-sequitur.....
I dislike the insulting tone of the thread's title.

It had to be said.